Show the Reason Why You Were Blocked

funyarinpa • 31 August 2015 at 6:28 AM

EDIT 8:20PM: !PLEASE READ!

To those who are going to/want to post here can I kindly ask that I am not pinged? This topic has upset me in a way that has seriously made me consider quitting Eggcave and it goes much further than just being 'angry over a block' (I never actually was 'angry', just confused and kind of guilty). I'd rather not be reminded of this topic again. Thank you.

Everything else I've wrote has been left as is just so it's there and how it originally was.
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I've been thinking this should be added for a while but just now I decided to put it forward:

I was on the Click Exchange, and then it said the user had blocked me on one of the creatures. I am so confused and upset as to why? I never beg for feeds, never ask about UFT creatures, never feed if I'm not linked to the creature or if it says not to...I don't even random ping anyone! Never have.

It doesn't have to say 'who' the user is, but why- to keep them anonymous but tell you what you did when something like this happens. I really think blocks need justification, especially when they hit randomly (Without you knowingly doing anything).

It could work like when you block someone there is a drop down box with the reason to display (Ie. Feeding when told not to, begging for creatures, secret side, etc.).

Anyone else agree with this? I think it would prevent a lot of upset and confusion. Please post your thought and any pros or cons with this 😊

leafmelody • 31 August 2015 at 7:02 AM

@funyarinpa
I agree with you. 😉 If they don't do it soon, many users will be curious and confused. Like this: 😱 I don't know who'll do that to you, but I wouldn't ever do it, unless the case is really bad. I just hate being mean to other people, and my weakness is that I'm always shy, no matter what. I'd feel that this would prevent confusion, too, and therefore should be used in the egg cave community. (Sorry if it's so formal. I also have a weakness of hating formal language. 😋)

funyarinpa • 31 August 2015 at 7:38 AM

@leafmelody

Thank you for supporting this 😊

I'd also never block anyone unless they were being mean to me- it sounds kind of sappy but the feelings of other people are much more important to me than a few pixels.

Also as a shy and weirdly sensitive person, this would make me feel as though the block is justified and not just someone who doesn't like me (This is my only idea left for my block, crossing off all the usual reasons for them).

(Haha, it's fine 😋 )

ida92 • 31 August 2015 at 8:02 AM

@funyarinpa Although I have never been blocked by anyone (or maybe I'm just not aware), I support this idea. I have seen a few users complayning about being blocked and not knowing why this happened. It's quite a shame.

lightblood • 31 August 2015 at 8:49 AM

@funyarinpa This would help a lot, especially if it was at random. Then, perhaps, you can at the very least learn why and know what to do to change it.

funyarinpa • 31 August 2015 at 9:03 AM

@ida92

It was because of other users that I felt this was needed a while ago, but I hadn't experience what it was like for myself until today :/

There's this kind of guilt for what you did and in some ways you want to ask what you did and apologise but- because of how blocks naturally work- you never find out.

@lightblood

Yep! If we knew what we did wrong, we could avoid doing it in the future- but as it stands it's kind of 'punishment' without reason.

Thanks, both of you!

beckah-lula • 31 August 2015 at 9:23 AM

@funyarinpa

I totally agree with this! This happened to me not long ago, I was browsing the latest 15 trades and saw a trade where I had what the person was asking for and decided to offer but I couldn't because they'd blocked me? I don't when and i don't know why? I'm quite shy and don't do things that would upset people so I don't know what I could have possibly done, I don't think I've ever even spoken to the person which made it worse :/ I was very hurt at the time, I'm okay now but it still upset me, so I totally support this idea😊 or even an option to despute the block if you haven't done what the persons says

funyarinpa • 31 August 2015 at 11:29 AM

@beckah-lula

Thanks~ 😊

I was thinking sort of outside of displaying what you did to 'earn' the block (for lack of a better word 😋 ) that users maybe have too much power when it comes to blocks? I've never blocked anyone and only glanced at the page today to see what it was like, but from what I see- the user can just type a name in, click 'block' and that's it done.

Tickets seem much better since the user blocking another would have to state their case and the mods would have to review the reason(s) for the block before it happens. This would not only reduce the number of 'random blocks' but would probably bring forward users who are perhaps cheating or harrassing others in the community.

elf • 31 August 2015 at 11:35 AM

@funyarinpa
Most other sites do allow users to block like this, it's simply a way to prevent 2 users from interacting with each other 😋 Don't take it too harshly ^^"

funyarinpa • 31 August 2015 at 11:53 AM

@leonx

I'm not taking it too harshly, I just don't agree with people being able to block whoever they want whenever they want without justification. I was actually going to put in my explanation about maybe using tickets that I knew lots of people would disagree but I didn't want to rant 😋

What I'm really saying over the way they are done is that the system here is quite...'open'. I don't like the idea that I could block anyone right now on the whole site without a reason without anyone questioning it :/ It doesn't seem right. Especially on the poor blocked user if they find out.

elf • 31 August 2015 at 12:02 PM

@funyarinpa
I think most of the time when people block, the reason's either stated, or they are just not fond of the other user. I personally don't think justification is needed because well, that's just the other user's personal preference.

And the system is usually always this open, on most websites you can block anyone other then the staff if you wanted too. Is it polite? Not really, but they are still allowed to prevent interaction for whatever reason they have

And Im not sure about the catching scammers part as they'd probably be reported anyway 😋

Orderedchaos • 31 August 2015 at 12:02 PM

I'm sorry but this is not going to happen, especially the idea of having the moderation team "approve" blocks. People can block others for any reason they want, anything from major things like harassment to trivial things like just randomly taking a dislike to someone. That is the beauty of it. If someone is bothering you for any reason at all you can block them and cut some stress out of your life.

Forcing people to tell you why they blocked you is in itself a form of harassment. Your forcing someone to confront someone that for whatever reason they don't want to have anymore contact with. Suddenly they have to legitimize their feelings, which do not need legitimizing, and maybe they don't end up blocking someone harmful and continue to feel harassed and stressed when they visit the site. This is not the kind of situation we want to have arise nor the atmosphere we want for the site. People should have the power to block others for any reason, no matter how valid others think it is. Just because a block to you seems "random" does not mean that it actually is.

If you discover you've been blocked by someone just ignore it. Don't attempt to contact them, don't call them out in public, just move on with your life.

ida92 • 31 August 2015 at 1:02 PM

@Orderedchaos but isn't this harmfull for people who were blocked for no reason? It creates stress and harrassment for those people and this is not a situation Egg Cave wants to have ( I assume). I think that blocking for random reasons is very unfair. If someone doesn't like another user just because their spelling is incorrect (for example) they should "move on with tneir lives" instead of bloking somebody just like that. This is not a reason to block people. I understand blocking for spam, abuse or being impolite to someone, but nobody should block another person just because they have such a caprice.

elf • 31 August 2015 at 1:17 PM

@ida92
I have to say I disagree with that, nobody blocks for "no reason" as they will always have their own purpose behind it. It does not create stress and harassment for if you are blocked, it just means the other user does not want to interact with you. Not everybody is going to like who you are, and sometimes you just have to deal with that. What you might think is a random reason, the other user may be keeping personal instead. Just because you do not understand why, does not mean that they don't have a reason. And even if you find that they blocked for an unreasonable reason that may be rude in some cases, it is their choice whether they want to confront you or not.

iceiceice • 31 August 2015 at 2:17 PM

If this was optional, I would support it (or, at least, I wouldn't mind being implemented). It shouldn't be mandatory.

If they want to give you a reason, they will, which is why I mostly disagree with this idea.
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I strongly discourage the idea of having a ticket sent in. I find that...restraining.

Especially, (for example, )
I mean, if I block [user] because of an altercation, I don't want to interact with them. Nor do I want to explain to them that they, uh, disagreeable.

Also, for the people who takes the time to write out their rules/block, I find the ticket idea unnecessary.

If the people who broke the rule won't take the time to read/understand them, then making the blocker have to explain to them is just tedious.
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In short, if they want to give you a reason, they will. Imo, 'unfair', to people who does write down the rules.

newlife • 31 August 2015 at 6:36 PM

@funyarinpa
I understand where you're coming from, I have someone blocked I have no idea what for, but I don't really care. Let go and live on.

However, adding a reason, no matter if it's optional, WILL be misused. There will always be someone that misuses the system, i.e. the colors before they added their own, so that nothing bad would be hiding in white text

It would be nice to know why they blocked you. But sometimes, you just need to move on... even if it's hard. Some people will block you just by seeing how you interact with others, some by what you say on the forums. Even if you've never spoken to them.

I suggested this about a year ago, and what I said above is pretty much what I got told. Can't, because people can and WILL misuse the system.

How? They can put some really rude things up, that only you can see, and if it has bad words that have gotten through the filter, mods have to be pulled in, and the moderators do not want to be part of a personal scuffle.

Anyways, good idea, but there will be misuse with it. Even if it's an optional thing.

Deleted • 31 August 2015 at 7:42 PM

@funyarinpa

I get that it's frustrating, being blocked and not knowing why. But the rules in place are there for a reason, and I'm grateful for the way they are set up. I've never blocked anyone, nor been blocked (at least that I know of.) I've received harassment of sorts, but just chosen to ignore them, or delete the comments.

However, It's freeing to know that I can choose to block anyone at anytime. Without having to explain myself. I shouldn't have to explain why. Blocking should be a given right.

Yes, some people are very "block-happy". And will block for seemingly no reason. But they've got a right to, for any stupid reason they wish. Just ignore them and move on. It's all you can do about it.

jirachiwishmaker • 31 August 2015 at 8:38 PM

@funyarinpa

Don't take another person's actions personally, unless you actually know them and have been a close friend of them. People in the real world can do strange things, and have strange habits. So for that reason, I feel that blocking is necessary because for me I've used it as a way of protection. Meaning no confrontation of back and forth he said she said which is nonsense to me.

Because I feel it's unnecessary to keep asking a person the same things over and over. Also, a person needs to think about what they've done wrong, it's not hard to think and go back in your mind to replay what was said and done to figure it out. Another thing, is if that person isn't feeling good personally and physically, it's really not nice to bother them.

You shouldn't wonder why that person blocked you, just remember there's more ppl out there that you can be friends with, then those that you dislike. Also just "Let It Go" some ppl are never meant to be that includes relationships of family, friends etc. Sometimes it just don't work out, so you just move on with your life, and reflect on who really do care about you genuinely.

lenamilove • 31 August 2015 at 9:51 PM

-no ping- just opinion-

I'm sorry that it affects you so much, it would honestly affect me too. I get where you're coming from, it sucks for people to just be able to kind of shove you away with no explanation. But I don't believe tickets would help.. I think it would put too much stress on mods and wouldn't allow people to feel necessarily safe to block. As an optional thing, I think it would be helpful and informative, but not too intrusive on the blocker.

While I've never been blocked and some people really bother me, I'm relatively a pacifist, and I don't find it worth it. If I got blocked, it feels like a dislike on a video- not just that someone dislikes me, but to the point that they feel they need to point it out, which I find a bit appalling.

From what I've seen, you are a very kind person, I can't imagine the reason for the block. But I do hope you don't feel too bitter about the whole thing. Some people hate on us, some people are block happy, some people are just plain mean. But you're not, and I feel that that's worth something.

Well, I guess I sound a little preachy. But I just wanted to show that I understand.

metaphor • 31 August 2015 at 10:34 PM

Blocking people every time you're "omg triggured" or whatever is really, well, cowardly in my opinion. But meh. I guess not everyone will like everyone. Personally, I've never blocked anyone and probably never will unless someone consistently begs me for creatures or CC. I don't block people just because they say something I don't like. That's stupid. Typically, in the real world, you can't block someone out just because they disagree with you. Now, if they say something hurtful, I can definitely see blocking them. But good luck functioning in everyday life if your block list is a mile long just because not everyone caters to your preferences.

Note: this is NOT directed at anyone in particular. I don't know the person who blocked the OP or anyone else. It's not important. But I see crap like this on sites like Reddit and Tumblr where people get their panties in a bunch because their fee-fees get hurt by the truth/something not intended to be offensive/something that in no way affects them/someone disagreeing that it just makes me wonder how the heck some people function. If you seriously get so upset by something trivial someone on the Internet said/did, it's time to turn off the computer and go for a jog or something. If a COLLECTIBLE CUTE PIXELS website stresses you out, I'm sorry, but talk to someone. I'm not being facetious. I'm being sincere.

/rant

In other words, what @ida92 said. If you don't like the way someone talks or don't like how they conduct their trades, get the heck over yourself.

But, I suppose on the other side, you also have to learn to accept that not everyone will like you. It's hard. As someone who was bullied a lot in middle school and pretty much turned against by everyone in my grade for no reason other than they didn't like me/the way I looked or whatever, I do take it a little personally when people don't like me for whatever reason, as a reflection of my worth as a person. But at the end of the day, it really isn't. It's just one person's view. If it makes you feel any better, I can guarantee you that not everybody is in love with that person either for any number of reasons. Just the way the Earth keeps spinning.

Ian • 8 September 2015 at 1:28 PM

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