Rants should not be allowed on forums.

stellalunagirl • 23 June 2012 at 11:11 PM

@pendulum

I agree with you, but I just feel that rants are no necessary on threads, that is just my opinion.

@balletninja
If you really feel that way then it may be best not to come to this thread, because we have differing opinions and it seems you disagree very strongly on this.

This topic is getting off track and it is starting to gain drama so I'd like to bring it back to a "safer" place.

james-bond • 23 June 2012 at 11:11 PM

@pendulum You still haven't actually said if you like the suggstion or not. The suggestion would be a way for people who want to rant to keep ranting, and people who don't want to see rants to not see them. So @april__ can be someone who signs up to 'being able to see rants'.

Deleted • 23 June 2012 at 11:12 PM

You guys do realize this topic is getting out of hand? I don't understand how this is contributing to the community, you guys are asking for a positive outlook but what you guys are doing is polluting the atmosphere with negativity.

Yes, I will admit this comment is no way helping and that it is just going to build up the argument, alls I'm saying is that if someone wants to rant out to people on the Internet, including Egg Cave, then let them be, I understand you're stating your own opinion and you're speaking strongly about it, I don't see how any of this is taken to be 'mature'. If someone wants to advise the person, than it's fine, it's not like you're being forced to.

There is a difference between reality and the Internet, for one most people have another side to them which can only be revealed through online communication because they aren't face to face therefore they are capable of saying things and express who they are without any worries.

This isn't meant to be taken crudely, even so, I'm just expressing my own beliefs on ranting, I don't see how that could make me become 'Immature', because it is the same as me disagreeing with you as you are disagreeing with me.

No matter what any of us say there's always going to be a negative side to it, so I might as well just end my argument here unless of course someone has something else to say?

But seriously, where's the positivity in this?

april__ • 23 June 2012 at 11:12 PM

@james-bond

I've said it before, but after seeing the controversy, I feel the need to say it again, I think that would be the best thing. To have the option.

james-bond • 23 June 2012 at 11:13 PM

@balletninja you didn't reply to post 10 of page 3. And hypocritical is not the right word. If you don't care about hurting others, I think you should really watch where you post.

pendulum • 23 June 2012 at 11:15 PM

@james-bond

OH. xD I was unaware IF I actually said I supported it or not. xD Well the last part I kind of support but the rest I do not agree with. Sorry 'bout that!

It is just weird. :/ I kinda want to opt out of this. I didn't realize how "extreme" things are on Egg Cave anymore. D:

sunshinecat • 23 June 2012 at 11:15 PM

Hmm yeah, I think the option to 'turn off' rants would be a good idea. And for new users, it would likely be the default setting (or they could be asked upon joining whether to see rants). People would have to label their thread as a rant if it is one, and if a thread is not marked, then perhaps moderators would have the power to mark it as a rant.

stellalunagirl • 23 June 2012 at 11:16 PM

This is really going to go nowhere, so @james-bond I think you should ask for the topic to be closed. Arguments will go back and forth.

To be dramatic: "THE PUBLIC HAS SPOKEN!"
They want to keep their rants, they want to be able to express themselves and use their freedom of speech.

I'd rather this not turn into full-blown drama, with so many strong opinions and some rather immature comments.

balletninja • 23 June 2012 at 11:17 PM

@stellalunagirl You don't have to read rants, you can though. And you can comment. I am choosing to comment.

I can handle myself. I am going to fight for my rants because they bring me much comfort.

Okay to make this less of a rant, I will look at your side. They do bring negativity into the community, but in the end the support and friendships made from rants outweigh the negatives.

@james-bond

That is a really weird suggestion and while you may want it, I doubt it will ever happen. Just ebbing honest 0.0 Maybe just do what I do with chainmail, and tab out of it as soon as you see it? There are always going to be rants out there as there is always going to be chainmail. We can't stop it, so we have to be responsible for ourselves.

james-bond • 23 June 2012 at 11:18 PM

@art The thing is, I severly dislike seeing rats and I would like if if there was some way I could not see them. This suggestion is a way of accomplishing that. Ranters can still rant and people who don't want to see them don't have to. But for some reason (I think that ranters know they'll lose their public ranting space), people think that rants should be shown to everyone.

balletninja • 23 June 2012 at 11:19 PM

@james-bond I really honestly thought we wanted less posts. If I went back and replied to every comment I would just start new flames. Not a good idea.

stellalunagirl • 23 June 2012 at 11:20 PM

@balletninja

Well, I'm glad you're trying to see it from someone elses perspective, i think the best solution is to close this topic and start a different topic based on the idea of a seperate thread for rants ect.

That is was the main idea and I do agree it is a good idea.

@james-bond
just close the topic, you're not going to get these people to change their minds or anything.

pendulum • 23 June 2012 at 11:21 PM

I think instead of implementing the idea of "turning off rants", isn't just as easy to ignore them? Food for thought...

I mean, I am being serious. @james-bond @art @balletninja @sunshinecat @stellalunagirl

james-bond • 23 June 2012 at 11:21 PM

@pendulum The forums are FULL of rants and attention for self. The last 6 posts on chitchat are self images seeking attention. sure, you can opt out. 😊 You have acted in a much better way that some others. Thank you for your opinion.

@sunshinecat yeah moderators can turn it into a rant. But the person would have to be warned not to post it as a normal post otherwise they'll keep doing it.

@stellalunagirl If I close this topic will the suggestion be taken into consideration? I'd really like not to be able to see rants and self pity posts. The last 6 chit chat posts are self images that are looking for attention.

Deleted • 23 June 2012 at 11:22 PM

@James-bond I understand that, and I have no problem with you not liking them, but from before I was baffled to the idea of not allowing rants through the forums, and I agree that there should be an option to hide rants, possibly open up a category for those who want to rant and people can choose whether or not they'd like to see the rants. I wasn't meaning to start any argument before.

stellalunagirl • 23 June 2012 at 11:22 PM

@pendulum

I think a user suggested a separate thread/forum for rants and I think that is a better idea.

@james-bond
As i said, post a different topic explaining your idea of keeping rants separate from normal threads, turning them off is not going to be easy.

balletninja • 23 June 2012 at 11:23 PM

@pendulum I rather Ian work on something else than a separate thread for rants.

I have pretty much been saying that this whole time though, but maybe someone will actually listen to it if it comes out of your mouth :x

pendulum • 23 June 2012 at 11:23 PM

@stellalunagirl I understand that.

But for now, I am sure it would be a long and tedious feature to even think about implementing or maybe it's not?

All I am saying is for now, wouldn't it be easier to just try to ignore it? 😱

stellalunagirl • 23 June 2012 at 11:24 PM

@pendulum

Not necessarily, Ian only needs to make a new thread SPECIFIC to ranting, or letting out emotions ect. I am sure it won't take very long.

james-bond • 23 June 2012 at 11:25 PM

I don't get how it's so hard for people to simply say if they like the suggestion or not. The SUGGESTION (at the bottom of the 1st post).

sunshinecat • 23 June 2012 at 11:26 PM

@balletninja It would be a lot of trouble for Ian to make a thread, and then sticky it? It would probably take about one minute. It's not exactly a hard task.

Deleted • 23 June 2012 at 11:27 PM

@Pendulum I think that it may be difficult for others to ignore them, especially when it's clear that they are titled "RANT!", and to the topics that aren't in any way labeled to be a rant could have others fall into them without a warning.

balletninja • 23 June 2012 at 11:27 PM

@stellalunagirl
I think it is really weird to have a rant thread. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Maybe a debate/causes thread? You have to be careful with those though, they can get into religion/politics which is not an accepted conversation in most places.

james-bond • 23 June 2012 at 11:27 PM

@stellalunagirl people still post their own rants, that's the problem. I've seen threads before, for everyone, but people making their own rant gets more attention. That's why they choose the latter option.

pendulum • 23 June 2012 at 11:28 PM

Alright. I meant like the feature of hiding rant threads or having the option. That could possibly take time to implement on the site as a whole?

I didn't mean adding a thread meant for rants sirs and madams. xD That would be easy. ;p

james-bond • 23 June 2012 at 11:30 PM

@balletninja religion is VERY important to some people. It can be everything to them. And you say it can be inappropriate on forums like this, so them not being allowed to talk about it - is that freedom of speech? It's like what you feel about your rants. People can be VERY touchy.

sunshinecat • 23 June 2012 at 11:30 PM

I'd be happy with a thread or the option to turn off rants (which would take more time, obviously). But at the very least, a thread would be nice. I mean, how is this any different from the shoutbox? It's just a way of keeping one certain kind of (potentially annoying) topic from clogging up the forums.

balletninja • 23 June 2012 at 11:31 PM

@sunshinecat You gotta enter it into a code, then add a picture, a description, all the buttons. It can be a pain to implement even the smallest things because if you mess it up you have to find where you messed it up, clean it up, and re-implement.

Ignoring it makes life easier.

april__ • 23 June 2012 at 11:32 PM

My thoughts though, while I don't get sick of seeing rants in the live pulse... I get sick of seeing a lot of other things.

The projects, pictures of me threads, and a bunch of other stuff...

But what do I do? I just ignore it. I bit my tongue and just scan over it. It's annoying to see the live pulse cluttered with a billion topics on the same thing, I agree, but it's easily to ignore.

I think we should just do the same with rants

I don't see why Ian should make another thread for it. I do wish some people were more respectful in their rants though. That is all.

Any ways. This has gotten way off topic. I'm going to set a good example and peace out of here.


Best of luck everyone.

sunshinecat • 23 June 2012 at 11:32 PM

@balletninja As I said, I don't NEED the option. I'm fine with a thread, which would be insanely easy to make.