Is CC over rated?

jupiter_hollow • 10 January 2013 at 5:06 PM

@jrock2013

I would appreciate not blowing up in my face for making an honest mistake please. Let's look at the facts though. You're five months old (account wise) and I'm nearly hitting my tenth month. You have tons of CC in general. Now, I doubt ALL of that came from trading EC or creatures.

I know people years old who still have only LE's and no CC's. It was an automatic response because I can't really understand how you'd have so much by just trading.

And I don't really care, it's still too little and raising one million takes five days minimum (unless you feed all day like a maniac) >>

arabianninja • 10 January 2013 at 5:08 PM

@jupiter_hollow

I have every right to talk because I did not spend a single cent on CC. All the CC creatures in my cove are traded and I have given away tons of rare creatures in return.

Please refrain from telling people not to get involved here if you don't know the facts.

whitefire • 10 January 2013 at 5:09 PM

@JRock2013
@Jupiter_Hollow
PLEASE don't fight! Please... I hate watching people fight over stupid things like this. You're both right! CC IS required to run the site, and you CAN obtain a lot of it just by hard work, but it's also EXTREMELY hard to get it. Please, just agree to disagree?

Deleted • 10 January 2013 at 5:11 PM

@jupiter_hollow This is a foolish topic to be fighting over. Just because people have younger accounts doesn't mean that they get handed CC to them on a golden platter. They have to work hard too and just because they are able to get lots of CC doesn't mean that they don't deserve it.

jupiter_hollow • 10 January 2013 at 5:14 PM

@arabianninja I am NOT saying you shouldn't talk because you spend CC. I'm saying you shouldn't because you have wonderful creatures. Not everyone has three years eperience like you. A cove of commons is okay, I guess, but I said it before, there's only so much commons. And I would accept such an answer from someone who does have a cove of commons, but you have an amazing cove. You've had a cove of commons once, I'm sure, but that was far back when things were fair. Now they aren't and that's why I'm angry.

@whitefire We're not, we're just stating different opinions. I didn't mean to insult anybody. Just stating the obvious here.

Deleted • 10 January 2013 at 5:16 PM

@jupiter_hollow
I would appreciate that you didn't assume something about me, when you've never asked and don't even know. I personally don't care if you believe me or not. But, I know much time I have put into it all and to tell me that I can't talk because I've done well and gotten lots of CC, it's going to be a bit insulting, considering all the work it took. If you doubt that that's really possible, then I don't know what to tell you. I've done it and I know it's possible. It's really not as hard as everyone makes it out to be. Once you have a little stack of CC, you can start making more CC and get the ball rolling. It'll keep growing and growing.

arabianninja • 10 January 2013 at 5:17 PM

@jupiter_hollow

I am sorry, but that is what you made and still make it sound like.

"And I would accept such an answer from someone who does have a cove of commons"

Those are your words and they clearly indicate that you are not okay with me stating my opinion on this topic.

But now enough of the fighting, let's get back to the topic.

Deleted • 10 January 2013 at 5:19 PM

@jupiter_hollow Well you may not be fighting, but stating the obvious sure looks like fighting over here. And things are fair. This is just a game and is you put time and percistance in it and your really want to achieve this goal, you can. Like I said. People don't get handed money and CC on a silver platter while they just sit there doing nothing.

jupiter_hollow • 10 January 2013 at 5:20 PM

@jrock2013

I wasn't saying I didn't believe you, I was explaning WHY I assumed that. I was trying to apologize not prove you wrong.

Read the second paragraph. It was an automatic response.

Gosh, I'm not trying to start a fight, alright.

@bluegirl08 Burn me alive for assuming, would you? =.=

Deleted • 10 January 2013 at 5:22 PM

@jupiter_hollow Well there is an obvious way to solve this. Block eachother. I just hate fights, and saying 'Burn me alive for assuming, would you? =.=' is a little over rated for a COMPUTER GAME!

Deleted • 10 January 2013 at 5:28 PM

@jupiter_hollow
It's okay. I'm not trying to start a fight either.

jupiter_hollow • 10 January 2013 at 5:30 PM

@bluegirl08

Alright, apparently I was wrong for assuming a lot of things. but blocking eachother is rash for me. You can block me, if you want to so much. If you hated fights, then why get involved in one? I made a mistake, true, but I admitted that.

@arabianninja @jrock2013

The only thing I'm saying here is the point that this topic was created in - CC isn't really traded fairly... It used to be cheaper to buy with EC but it's raised a lot lately. It's something a lot of people are worried about and so am I. Yeah, a cove of commons can be beautiful with the right travls and creatures, but eggcave is still centered around CC, people want it. You know it, I know it. I'm sorry for assuming things for both of you.

At this point, we're all agreeing that CC is unfair though, which is practically what the point's about xD Anyways, if anyone disagrees with me and hates me at the moment, then I don't mind, they can block me.

Deleted • 10 January 2013 at 5:31 PM

@jupiter_hollow All I was trying to say is that just because people have CC doesn't mean they don't work for it. And please stop spelling my username incorrectly.

jupiter_hollow • 10 January 2013 at 5:33 PM

@bluegirl80 Oops. I see you've blocked me already. 😊 Why? did I insult you? Say anything vulgar?

april__ • 10 January 2013 at 5:33 PM

I'm just going to say something. And this is NOT directed at anyone in particular.

I see some sort of conversation going on about how hard it is to work for CC on this site, rather than just buy it. And how some people are lucky they can just buy it.

I work hard for the money to buy my CC.

Sure, it may not seem like a lot but... I buy CC.

I work two jobs, and am now back to University full time. Most of my money goes towards food, which is mostly going to my cousin now since he's living with me. He's 14. I also sell Avon on the side. The only money I allow myself to spend on CC, comes from my selling Avon which let me tell you, takes a lot to make a 50 dollar profit from. >_> All the money from my two jobs goes towards my University books, gas, rent, bills and now also supporting my cousin because of some family drama.

I'm not trying to say my life is hard. It isn't. I have it fairly easy. That wasn't the point of this post. The point was, that sometimes those that can just 'buy' their CC easily work hard for it. Maybe some people do just get it from their parents, but not all.


I'm just kind of sick of seeing people say that, 'well so-and-so doesn't work hard for their CC, they just buy it.' And this isn't so much directed at this thread as conversations I've seen around the site.

Some people use their little allowance money, or do real life things for it. I work for mine, literally, not just on the site.

icymuffin • 10 January 2013 at 5:35 PM

Dude. Guys.
Insulting each other doesn't give you points for winning.
Really, just stop arguing like that :I


@april__
This.
Yes.
Please and thank you D:

Deleted • 10 January 2013 at 5:35 PM

@jupiter_hollow Nope. I have just seen people get in fights with you on multiple occasions.. I think it was... 6 times? I would like to try and keep myself out of it. 😊

pebblestar-nightclan • 10 January 2013 at 5:37 PM

@april__

I totally agree with this statement! ^^ I do live with my parents, and I'm rather young, but I DO use my own money, which I work hard to earn. However, I don't have a credit card yet and must use my parents'. Still, I pay them back for the money they used from their credit cards, so technically I'm paying for it. Though, I've recently stopped spending my money on Internet stuff. ^^;

I wouldn't necessarily rate CC as overrated, and it IS the lifeblood of Egg Cave, unfortunately. I do appreciate it, despite the slight greediness it has added to EC. 😊

mastermepp • 10 January 2013 at 5:39 PM

@phoenixfox Agreed.

jupiter_hollow • 10 January 2013 at 5:44 PM

@bluegirl80

Just not afraid to state my opinion 😋 But that's alright ^^ Anyways, are you going to post an intro to Experimental Potential? I would assume you're dropping out since you hate me now, but I thought I'd ask.

@april__ I know who you're talking to. And I never said people who buy CC don't deserve it. I know I made a mistake with that and I'm sorryyyyy. *whines* The point, my point and the topic's point was that CC is unfair. And it really is. People with giant awesome coves (yes, like yours) have earned their money and have gotten their dream creatures. I admire them for it. I'm saying that for all the newbies (and me too, because I'm having troubles trading, still xD) things seem a lot unfair, especially now that CC has been highered so much.

I guess I didn't grasp my chance when it was a lower price but that's my fault. 😋

april__ • 10 January 2013 at 5:47 PM

@jupiter_hollow

I actually wasn't talking to you. XP I hadn't read back in the thread.

Sorry if my post offended you. I actually just read back now. Bad timing for me to post my mini rant. XP


I think what we need is more things to buy with EC, so that's more sought after and will hopefully make CC and EC trading with each other a bit easier.

jupiter_hollow • 10 January 2013 at 5:55 PM

@april__ Just noticed what you gave me o-o WHY? D: I don't deserve that! I don't think I've done anything for you .-.

And yeah, I'm definitelly looking forward for a raise of EC usage. 😃 It would be so much easier.

Us non-CCers are making progress even now, I don't mind feeding loads, but gosh, would it make the work so much easier. 😸

jemmie • 10 January 2013 at 5:59 PM

I don't feel like pinging anyone, I'm just saying this.

I have the money to buy CC, I have gift cards, credit cards, cash too. (I don't have an allowance though)I don't get it for free. Some of it is from birthday and Christmas gifted money combined, which isn't a lot. 30 dollars the most for both. And other times, I do work. Not stuff like @april__ does, but you get me. Am I able to get CC? NO! Many users aren't ALLOWED to pay for CC with their own money, or their parents money. Users like me. Sometimes, I have to sell away my favorite creatures so I can get CC. Not fun!

I totally agree on the EC fact, but not too much. CC should sill be available, since it's one of the reasons this site is actually running. We should be able to pay in EC, but only large amounts. Although that wouldn't exactly fit with the "Cash Shop Park" Title, many users would very much enjoy it. I certainly would!

Agree with me?

nitromegamer • 10 January 2013 at 6:05 PM

Ian is using Bumpwire, which is a free site creator... thingy, I believe.

I dont buy CC, mostly because I cant afford it with the economy and such smart things I cant understand. ^^" Still, I dont find the point of making a topic that 'll only cause a giant fight. .-.

ninjagirl • 10 January 2013 at 6:07 PM

Aw guysh owo

I kindo agree with all of you in a way XD well. Almost all.
If I ask for CC, even if I pay for it myself, I most definitely wouldn't be allowed. Although I'm able to buy iTunes cards with my allowance all the time. XD
SO, if there was an eggcave APP *SHOT DEAD*
Im sorry I'm sorry, but I'm just gonna say this-
It would be cool if we were able to pay for CC through an eggcave app. With ITunes cards or phone credit and stuff. XD
Yes, yes, I know, no app. Just sayin. X'D

metaphor • 10 January 2013 at 6:07 PM

well, on the plus side, my prediction on page one was correct.:x

Anyway, I'm going to second what those who @april__. Most of us who buy CC don't just get to buy it whenever we feel like it. We have to spend our money wisely. EggCave is a form of entertainment and it is a privilege to be able to spend my money here. It is not a right. I don't get an envelope full of cash that says "Eggcave" every month, and I highly doubt many people here do either. They spend money they earn from work, allowances, birthday money, Christmas money, etc.
It isn't some elusive form of sorcery.

shadielle • 10 January 2013 at 8:43 PM

Is the CC overrated? Yes and no. Yes, because nowadays users ask exclusively for CC and too much CC and they barely make creature for creature trades. No, because it costs real life money and people want good deals for the real money they spent.

I'm very pround to see that Ian has been actively making useful updates to EC. However, and I don't mean to be rude of anything, I feel like opinions concerning CC are somehow being ignored (or perhaps they're just about to be considered, I hope).

This is what I told Ian about the CSP when he asked for suggestions for it some months ago:
- Cheaper prices (250 CC or even less, so that there are more creatures circulating and more people buying, and also because 5 dollars is too much for a pixel when you can buy a meal with that amount of money)
- Less CC creatures released per month (in my opinion, just one would be more than enough, otherwise Egg Cave will become too overcrowded, just like Pokemons. And then, with so many creatures, people won't really care for any specific creatures and might start joining the website and then leaving not long after starting player, and also oldies will eventually leave, which has already begun).
- More limited edition cave creatures (I know this has nothing to do with the CSP but this would make trading for CC easier).

I'm suggesting this so that players about to join this website don't think "oh no, you have to pay for this to become a good player, I'm not joining at afterall." I'm also telling this because, as a psychologist, I find Egg Cave players a very good comparison to real life people, and just like real life people (in this case, players), when facing too much information (in this case, creatures), they might lose interest in the game.

chapus • 10 January 2013 at 8:49 PM

@phoenixfox Well, I only spend 10$ for CC and my cove is almost worth 7 times what I spent. You can still get a beautiful cove, all you need is patience and you need to find the right people to trade with. 😸

Deleted • 11 January 2013 at 7:10 AM

@jupiter_hollow I never said I hate you. Sometimes when I block somebody I look to see how it affects my eggcave time. If it doesn't affect me when I block them, I unblock them. Its just a way to see who really unlikes me and who I just had a little squabble with. I'm sorry for sounding rude I never meant it to sound that way. When I say things a lot they come out in a rude way. I may post eventually but right now I have other RP's that I have already started where I am on like page 50. 😊

mrsgiggles • 11 January 2013 at 7:36 AM

@jupiter_hollow I'm an adult with income, so I can afford to pay $15 a month for the Cash Shop monthlies. But that doesn't mean I don't understand your feelings. I do.

Right now, the site revolves around CC because there's more use for CC than EC. It's a sad fact, but the mods say that there are plans later this year to increase the use of EC. When that happens, you can be sure that people will be willing to trade CC for EC, so if you have saved lots of EC, you may have an easier time getting CC then.

And honestly, it's not easy to get rare pets. People look at my cove and say, oh, I'm the one to talk. But it's true. The Tine, Onny, Tenalp, Storticai, Foo, and Florn are all gifts from friends who *know* I will care for these pets and will never put them up for trade. And I was lucky - early in those days, I traded a Mummar when it was available for 250CC for a Macbot. So, yes, it's mostly time, patience, and luck to get your dream cove. In the meantime, the most we can do is to have fun trying!