What do YOU think of the cc travels?

olimpt • 6 February 2014 at 9:03 PM

I noticed that I and many other people are posting and spamming up the blog with suggestions, critique and the such.

Post here so we can hear what you have to say/suggest.

newlife • 6 February 2014 at 9:26 PM

@olimpt
Honestly, it really is overpriced.
$2 for one travel? And even then it's like other travels= when it's removed from a creature it disappears.
Well when it disappears, there's goes my two bucks down the drain.
Maybe I would even consider the thought of buying the travel if it was 50CC. But with these prices, nuh uh. I'm not even toying with the thought.

I always liked that travels were only available in the TC. It was free to all members, CC buyers or no. But now travels are different.

Now I have to go buy them to own every travel. And I really don't want to do that.

itslisaaa • 6 February 2014 at 9:27 PM

@olimpt
As a CC buyer myself, I would never buy a travel for 200 CC. I find it way overpriced, and frankly unfair to non-CC buyers.
Maybe if they were 50CC i'd consider buying it, but even then i don't know. I am spending real money and I don't think it's worth it.

I'd much rather have something else, like being able to spend CC on going back a stage, like if your creature evolves to the 2nd stage like within a day or two before you can get a freeze then buying something that reverts it back to the first stage then freezing it, because the creature evolves too quick or something.

The gist of my opinion is that I think it's a rip-off and not worth 200CC 😋 And i'm pretty sure lots of users would rather spend 200CC on a freeze, not a travel.

@newlife
I agree with pretty much everything you said 😋

nenielsen • 6 February 2014 at 9:30 PM

@olimpt I have tons of ideas here: #QueenOfControversy

Also, if you really want to know what people think, you should add a poll. 😉

olimpt • 6 February 2014 at 9:39 PM

@nenielsen
I don't see a poll fit here.
If someone truly wants to express something, I believe it should be written

nenielsen • 6 February 2014 at 9:51 PM

@olimpt a poll what? There's an option at the bottom of the "create a topic" page. I do too.

liza200aa • 6 February 2014 at 9:53 PM

Warning: A bit angry.

Down with CC travels! D:<
There are already two separate player groups- CC and non-CC. Do we want to go further in this direction?
Any more of this, and Ian is off my epic list! *gasps heard everywhere*

...But I figure all epic things must come to a end, and if it is chosen to continue ignoring the extreme over inflation issues of the EC currency and promoting the usage of CC instead, then there goes Egg Cave's glory. Who here remembers when 100k EC was actually worth something?

Pepperidge farm sure doesn't remember.

No offence to CC users, but I'm starting to feel that they're gaining too much control over the economy. It is only them that are able to obtain what's sold for CC directly, and thus up to them to decide the price. And usually, that means very expensive. I often have to sacrifice a number of LEs which were releaced and gaining rarity years ago, or millions of EC just to get a freeze.
Now we're getting this with travels.
Seriously?

olimpt • 6 February 2014 at 10:01 PM

@nenielsen
Hehe I know.
I was the one who suggested polls 😊
I dont want a poll on this specific topic because I dont think its fit here. Too many aspects of this topic to put in one poll.
I mean, it could be as simple as making the poll have two questions and asking do you support this or not. But I would rather have people type out their opinions than vote on it.

nenielsen • 6 February 2014 at 10:07 PM

@olimpt okay, I get that. 😃 It makes it easier for people to get away without posting, anyway. 😋

I'm too tired today to blab that much, but I agree that the CSP travels are ridiculously stupid and overpriced. :|

thursdays_dove • 6 February 2014 at 10:15 PM

@olimpt - I completely disagree with having travels in the CSP, but especially not for 200 CC! I think this is pretty much unanimous among the EC users. And if they're going to keep putting more things in the CSP, they need to create more things for people to be able to spend EC on. :/ Not to mention, if they created more things for people to spend EC on, it would give people more incentive to actually feed people's coves on EC and in turn promote creature growth, etc. I dunno, this seems pretty obvious to me.

mrsgiggles • 6 February 2014 at 10:41 PM

I have no issues with travels in CSP, but I am not buying any for 200CC. That's too expensive for something that would be obscured by the pet anyway. 50CC, yes, 100CC maybe, but 200CC no.

darkskyazray • 7 February 2014 at 5:32 AM

Okay, I WON'T definitly buy a travel for CC.
Reason?
Like novrain said: Not able to keep them and/or change them without loss.
Also it's really overpriced. A freeze or two genderchanges are better than one travel.
Also they are retired in the future.
I think, they should stock retired travels in the CC Shop for 50 CC. That would be worth it, if you really want to have a travel, that's not in the Travel Agency anymore.

Deleted • 7 February 2014 at 6:38 AM

@liza200aa
I agree with you, girl ... and the situation is kinda frustrating. Not only some of them change the economy as they want (like freezes, which used to go for 1-1,5 mil, now that their price is reduced still go for 2-2,5mil -.-), but sometimes they act kinda ... rude towards non CC user ... like they're better just because they buy CC. I know this isn't a site problem, but it's made due to some unpolite users but ... ugh, increasing the CC value while lowering the ECs one won't help at all. <<

despair • 7 February 2014 at 7:12 AM

@olimpt

As a CC buyer myself, I find this idea acceptable. However, I don't agree eith the 200 CC price. The travels are extremely pretty and all, but you could lower them down to 100 CC, so you could buy all 4 of them in a single go, plus have a little extra for gender changes, stars, or even another travel.

Deleted • 7 February 2014 at 8:37 AM

@liza200aa
I remember that times...

We could like get a LOT for 100k EC earlier, as there was very less creatures that time.. Now its.. like 1 million creatures o-o

Wild ideas ruin the EC economy itself. There was no CC value at first, then it increased, and a high inflation in Sept - Dec, but it then decreased in Jan 2013. It was all, going okay.. until they like.. stopped CC gifting, and as such, made EggCoins useless (and just said that it would be worth a lot). People had a lot of EC, they traded and it was used in the first month, but after that? You could get a monthly for like 2mil in July, and like 8mil in August? That's ridiculous.

The price went down a bit, and then it came around 6mil (which is the current rate for a CSP creature now). Now, the site staff were like /bent/ on doing something which would give EC more value, and *poof* all of a sudden they mistook EC for CC.
They gave CC MUCH MORE VALUE than it could have ever got within an year itself. Are they trying to make people get more CC features, and RESTRICT them in a way to the others, (exempting those who would do RIDICULOUS OVEROFFERS for CC - but thats quite less, a 1 or 2 people - I say)

If it were 50CC, okay.. np.. but now 200CC? worth as much as freezes? o-o

I could bet on it that NOBODY would trade their CSPs for like 2, 3 or even 4 of these travels ..A CSP creature for like 40-50 travels - new and old mixed, would be enough, but just 2? or make it 3 or even 4... but thats like something that get obstructed by a creature and cannot be reused.

My suggestions:

1. Make the price 50CC.

2. Make the price 100CC, and put a feature on it ... that the travel can be put on any creature, removed and then used again on any other creature (for a specific no.. say 5? - or till eternity...) - as its like $1 for something thats blocked by a creature...

3. Take it out from the CSP, and throw it in the TA (a high price - 500k maybe)... (not to let the art go to waste).

4. Add the suggestion Thief Shop, with possiblities of travels.. and high rates of getting such CSP travels from it as well...

5. Lower the CC in $ rate (which would never happen, I guess?) - The site is already running in SEVERE LOSS from the last times. Half of the CC buyers have quit, left EC. Like now, there would be like only about 7-8 people who buy CC, but then, about 30-40 had access to CC.

6. BRING BACK CC TRADING - Best option. Or that can be countered by the Thief Shop... (but I do guess that would also.. never happen)

Even gifting like 200CC per account .. just decreased its value for a week or so till everything was used up and finished within a week... Just a slight decrease of say.. 1mil that time, and an increase of 2mil now? Ridiculous.. again!

I wish that there were eggs the size of a Puff-shroom in PvZ.. That way we could preserve the travel itself...
I do guess that first stage Blobbarts/first stage Kiteps are the smallest of creatures, and they could like.. preserve the background by obstructing it minimally.

lunacharm1037 • 7 February 2014 at 10:38 AM

Actually I agree with what everyone has already said. As a CC purchaser myself, I will not pay 200CC for a travel. They should be free or possibly hard to get. It doesn't seem fair to those of us who don't have cc to have travels in cash shop. The non CC user will have no opportunity to get a new travel. It would be best to put it in the TA and just make them more expensive so EC would be worth something.

musicgurl333 • 7 February 2014 at 2:11 PM

I agree with everyone else that 200CC for a travel obscured by a creature is ridiculous. Maybe 100CC, but 200? Really? For a travel that will disappear if you take it off the creatures? That's insane.

karamel • 7 February 2014 at 2:38 PM

"I have no issues with travels in CSP, but I am not buying any for 200CC. That's too expensive for something that would be obscured by the pet anyway. 50CC, yes, 100CC maybe, but 200CC no."
Pretty much my opinion by @mrsgiggles. Making the travels cost 200 CC means that those travels have the same worth as a freeze. That is /not/ true. I'd be okay if they were 100 CC or under (since stars cost 100 CC, and they basically have the same purpose as travels), but 200 CC is a no-no. D:

@frosted Just going to comment on your point here:
"5. Lower the CC in $ rate (which would never happen, I guess?) - The site is already running in SEVERE LOSS from the last times. Half of the CC buyers have quit, left EC. Like now, there would be like only about 7-8 people who buy CC, but then, about 30-40 had access to CC."

I don't think you can say whether the site has suffered a loss or gained a profit unless official statistics are released. Nor can you say that half the CC buyers have quit--how do you know that new users haven't bought CC? (Yes, okay, they may be trading for it, but you can't assume that they're just not hoarding CC or something.) I wouldn't make assumptions about the statistics of the site unless the details have been openly shared. :x

liza200aa • 7 February 2014 at 3:03 PM

@frosted
Ah, a wonderful summary of how EC's economy failed.

I'd like to make my own suggestions:

1. Make cave monthlies get sold for EC. Even if they're small amounts like 25k, it will still boost the value of EC. Like, think of it this way:

Before: Make 200k, get 3-5 cave monthlys in one month.
(Overall gain: 200k/month)

After: Make 200k, spend 100k on 5 'cave' monthlies in one month.
(Overall gain: 100k/month)

EC would become produced much slower. The value on 'cave' Monthlies will be driven up, and all the while, EC will have much more meaning.

2. More creature customization. Once a person buys travels for all their main members, they're pretty much done, with the exception of occasional updates. If some form of EC buyable could be bought and placed on a creature alongside with travels, there would be more things to spend EC on.
Here are just a few ideas:
a) Expansion of characters in a profile.
b) Probably more interesting, a shrink potion which decreases the size of a creature to make a travel more visible. (more meaning to travels too)
c) Foregrounds, which are like travels but go in front of a creature instead. I actually suggested them, but it sunk.

3. Another interesting suggestion: NPCs that will ask for EC items in exchange for other special items only obtainable from them, like special travels. Maybe some may even have a low chance of giving special creatures.

4. Creatures sold for EC (SAR?) with split evolution lines. Like, there's a chance that when it hatches, it can have white fur or brown fur.
This
a) Encourages use of EC.
b) Encourages trading/swapping and auctions.
c) Adds more interest and variety, maybe suspense.

5. EC 'Fundraisers'. Similar to how it first was in the SAR with the Calla. All the users donate EC, and when a certain amount is reached, a new area, feature, or creature is unlocked for everybody.


...Oh yeah, and:
6. Get rid of CC travels.

ice2505 • 7 February 2014 at 3:36 PM

@mrsgiggles I agree with you!! 😃

I think everyone is over-reacting, the cc travels isn't the greatest idea, and it's overpriced, i agree with that. I am not sure if i would buy the cc travels myself because of this. 50cc would be a better price, especially since you can't reuse them.

But, I also have to say, at this point, eggcave is experimenting with different ideas. I feel like last year a bunch of new things were introduced, which is a good thing. I mean just take trading cc for example, that seemed like a good idea, but it got taken down because of scams. I guess what I am trying to say is that not everything that is introduced is always helpful and a good addition to eggcave, but with time it can be changed, improved, etc, etc, etc.

I'm really curious to see whats going to happen with theses travels. I mean, I don't think many people are interested in buying them, thats for sure. 😉

mastergemma • 7 February 2014 at 4:33 PM

I'd prefer if the prices were lower
But then I do care little about travels

@olimpt

borgore • 7 February 2014 at 5:40 PM

@olimpt

It's a lot of CC for a travel, a few of them I don't even think look CC worthy, I've seen EC travels with better art, no offence to the artist but they don't look like I'd pay real money to buy them to be covered by a creature.

It doesn't really affect me though seemso I only use Goldentree Meadow travels on all my creatures, I just think it's quite costly for a travel. Hey ho, people may disagree with my opinion. 😊

koimeteria • 7 February 2014 at 6:01 PM

@olimpt

I'm sure not gonna pay 2 bucks for a travel! Now, as I've seen it suggested, if it was 50 CC and animated or removable, then I might consider it. The art is also exactly the same quality level as the EC travels. I'm not saying they're ugly, just not worth 200CC.

olimpt • 7 February 2014 at 9:18 PM

If anyone hasn't seen this, this is what I posted on the blog


I have a few things to say about these travels. They are over priced, the art and what is in the travels is about exactly what you could--get with ec. I don't see anything spectacular about these travels that would make me want to fork out money for them.



I would more be inclined to want to buy said travels if they had something more interesting about them. (maybe if they were animated?)

If the travels are still going to be the same no matter what in the CC store, sell them for 50 ec or so. If they are going to be animated--then keep the price the same.

Thats a sloppy copy and paste of what I said.

metaphor • 8 February 2014 at 5:18 PM

I don't think it's at all a bad idea, but I do think they are overpriced. They could be worth 200 CC if you could remove them or at least use them multiple times, but as of now, I wouldn't spend 200 CC on one.

immortalraven • 8 February 2014 at 5:34 PM

I'm kinda against the whole thing but kinda not. I mean I thought they were trying to make EC more useful this gives more power to CC which is what I thought they were trying not to do or it seemed like for a little while. I hate the price though. It's a ton for just a travel. I mean they're pretty but still. I'd like them more if they were like 5oCC. One cause that's reasonable. Two I have a dang odd amount of CC from trades an don't want that to got to waste >.>

I think it'd be real messy and complicated for animated travels though. Cool but eeh sounds difficult and might be glitches or whatever with those o-0