Ranting. Move along. Random crap.

piucca • 26 February 2012 at 8:50 AM

@karamel
I agree.
What can stop this all together is NOT to make a
thread saying your quitting o.@ Simple as that, just leave.

karamel • 26 February 2012 at 8:50 AM

@dionaea HURRAH! MORE PEOPLE ARE REALIZING THE DUMBNESS OF BEGGARS!
No, sorry, not dumbness and not beggars, it just seems to me that people are begging for creatures when people quit, or people are begging for the quitter NOT to quit.

@piucca I like the resolvation, but then people wouldn't know where you've gone ._.

Meteoroid • 30 August 2012 at 9:02 AM

Ah, the sensibility in this thread is refreshing to read.

@piucca, that is most certainly a problem that I have noticed and wish to reduce. If a user is quitting, they should refrain from making a thread about it because it only stirs up commotion and several pages of "No, don't quit!" comments. Quitting should be done much more discretely to avoid these kinds of situations. Let your friends know about it, not the entirety of Egg Cave.

@karamel A quick check on the user's profile would solve that issue of any sudden disappearance. If someone cares enough about another user, it should be obvious if they quit or went on a hiatus.

Another issue is that many users do not understand the difference between quitting and taking a hiatus. If you make a quitting topic and then go on to say "I wont leave until my creatures are immortal", you're implying that you still care about your account and wish to visit it every so often. You're not quitting if you do that, you're taking a hiatus.

karamel • 30 August 2012 at 9:14 AM

@Meteoroid Despite a massive bump you still post 😋 xD

Also, a lot of wills have come up. I find it annoying that people have the need to post a whole topic of it, when they can post it on their profile, creature's profile, etc rather than clutter the forum with variations of the title "My EC Will" :/

Yeah, I do agree it's annoying that people 'semi-quit' too (or semi-hiatus, whichever ._.). Either you quit/take a hiatus or you don't.

Meteoroid • 30 August 2012 at 1:28 PM

As long as the post is meaningful and contributes to the topic, there is currently nothing wrong with posting in old threads to my knowledge (and from skimming the Forum Rules/Terms of Service). Simply posting "Bump!" or some such to revive a topic is looked down upon. You linked to this from another post earlier today and I wanted to throw in my two cents.

I've noticed the Egg Cave Will threads as well lately. In most cases, quitting threads only apply to the users that are pinged in the original post. It'd make more sense to send out personal messages or post on Walls rather to make a public thread

karamel • 30 August 2012 at 1:37 PM

@Meteoroid

I agree... I was thinking that there could be a Forum Rule about this but *shrug* I don't think it's a big enough deal to be a rule 😋
Plus, I don't see the point of wills. I find it easier to give out the creatures when you quit... :/

sanibel_18 • 30 August 2012 at 3:36 PM

@karamel

i agree with you.people are begging to much.😋 they beg users to stay, then they are ask for their creature's. they don't care about quitting users, they just want their creature's.-_-
when i made a "when i quit" topic, newbies just started asking for my pandai's.8(
i do beg too, but if the person really needs to go, then i respect her/his decision.

but it is really hard to see good friends quit. i know it's not good to beg, but i really don't want @snowrosehell to go.;-;

karamel • 31 August 2012 at 7:22 AM

@sanibel_18 Which is why quitting users should just tell their friends rather than make a big deal about it and create a whole topic :/ And also you can write a 'when I quit' will in a creature profile or something.

I used to beg, which I guess makes me a hypocrite xD But I don't anymore.

I usually try to get their email or something (if they feel comfortable). ><"

luv • 31 August 2012 at 7:03 PM

@Karamel
I agree... and disagree.
Begging I will do, with a restraint. I'll ask (borderline beg if they're a good friend) but if they tell me "I can't because [insert sad, happy, mad, horrible, exciting, distracting, weird story here] is taking up too much of my life, and I'm just wasting my life here now." Then, I say goodbye and let them go, but I see no harm in asking/begging people to stay if you respect their decision in the end.
Example of Good:
Me~
You're one of my best friends, PLEASE stay. PLEASE! I'll miss you so much if you leave!
Them~
I can't, I mean, my mother... she passed away. I have to get out of here, too many happy memories, clashing with this. I won't get any better until I get out of here.
Me~
Oh... Okay. Well, I'll miss you, but I totally understand. Hope you get better in real and maybe we'll talk again someday!
^^^ That, I've done, and will do again. But I'm still respecting their choice.
Bad:
Someone~
You're one of my best friends, PLEASE stay. PLEASE! I'll miss you so much if you leave!
Someone else~
I can't, I mean, my mother... she passed away. I have to get out of here, too many happy memories, clashing with this. I won't get any better until I get out of here.
Someone~
You'll be way happier if you stay on Egg Cave! You won't make us miss you that much, will you?
Someone else~
I really have to go. I'll miss you, but I'm leaving and you can't change that.
Someone~
It's a bad choice! Stay, please stay! Pretty, pretty please?
^^^ That bugs me.>: (

whispers • 31 August 2012 at 9:58 PM

@karamel
I agree with you. I may get a bit bummed that they are leaving. But I'm happy for them that they are happy in the RL. I respect their decisions and that I wish them the best out of life. But it annoys me I feel like quitting. People beg me on my wall not to quit. But I really want to sometimes. And I may just break my word this year.

ice2505 • 31 August 2012 at 10:41 PM

@karamel I agree soooooooo much! I also HATE whe the go; Soooo sorry your quitting ☹️ ☹️ ☹️ ☹️ So many people are quitting...Dx....btw can I adopt your flover, kitep, luckaur and nogar? 😊

xD Its kinda funny but annoying.

karamel • 1 September 2012 at 5:08 AM

@luv Glad to see your opinion 😊 I don't think what you're doing is begging (JUST bordering) but it still really bugs me that people can think that they can change other people's minds. It's called PEER PRESSURE :/ (If it goes to those extremes 😋)

@whispers ☹️ I'm sad to see you're thinking of quitting but if that's what you want, I can't change it - good luck in whatever you do for the future if you ever leave. Sorry to hear people begging on your walls... I wish people would just understand that they can't change other people. :/

@ice2505 Haha, I do kind of find it amusing when people are like, "OMG PLEASE DON'T GO I'LL MISS YOU PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T GO" (x981397218), then they're like, "Btw. Can I adopt all your rares? I'LL MISS YOU SO MUCH!!!!" xD It's funny and annoying at the same time.

zafeyry • 1 September 2012 at 11:37 AM

@karamel
"When they're quitting, they don't want to remember your sad face as s/he left. They want to remember your smile. Your feelings. Not your dread and depression and death of depression."

That was truly inspirational xD

karamel • 1 September 2012 at 11:44 AM

@zafeyry Why, thank you 😋 I don't think I meant it to be inspirational (but I guess it is) since I was so angry at that time xD 😃

luv • 1 September 2012 at 11:49 AM

@Karamel
I know, it seems inspirational because you made it sound like they're dying or something if they quit. XD

karamel • 2 September 2012 at 7:40 AM

@luv Well I hope not. Some people take games too seriously (NOT aiming this at ANYONE), and even with friends who they KNOW in IRL, some people are still completely sad :/

dv55555 • 2 September 2012 at 7:56 AM

its ok, ppl sometimes get to busy for this

karamel • 2 September 2012 at 8:18 AM

@dv55555 I'm not complaining about the actual quitters, I'm complaining about the beggars who seem to seem to think they can change people minds about quitting :/

luv • 2 September 2012 at 10:52 AM

@Karamel
I'd be sad if my best friend in RL life @Cynt5100 quit Egg Cave, but I wouldn't beg her to stay and get horribly upset when I can still see her in RL life.

karamel • 2 September 2012 at 11:06 AM

@luv That's good, but some people aren't being the way you are which also annoys me :/

meta_knight_lover • 7 September 2012 at 12:02 AM

@karamel

Holy crap, I hate this. Okay, for one, ahem, people have LIVES. Yes, lives. And they get to live them however they want. Going a bit off topic, but this kind of thing happens all the time. People only see their lives. Even if someone tries to explain their own life to them, they will never truely get it. So knowing that, we should all just respect peoples' decisions. We might not agree with it, but we have to respect and accept it.

karamel • 7 September 2012 at 12:46 PM

@meta_knight_lover Wait, you hate this rant or you hate this situation? ><"

I do agree with you on the "respect people's decisions". It's annoying when others don't.

jupiter_hollow • 7 September 2012 at 8:21 PM

@karamel True and false.

It truly is a shame how users have come to be - rude and nonchalant about others feelings. Someone is quitting. Okay, you are right, there's no need to make a topic, unless they want their creatures adopted out. And it's true that begging one to stay is a little too dramatic, if it's caps locked or obnoxiousl creature-demanding.

However, it CAN make people stay. I've had a few friends quit. Some are quitting now. And it's because of other users being rude to them or ignoring them. I did not in any way bug them to stay with 'whining' - they had enough idiots writing on their walls in Caps Lock. I tried to reason with them - EggCave does not only have a bad side (A.k.a. Beggars), but a ton of wonderful people as well. ^^ The quitting might have been a spur of the moment idea when they were insulted once again. Sometimes, making a reasonable pm with the ups and downs weighted and sending it to them can do miracles. 😊 Two people are not quitting anymore and now are having fun.

Begging loudly is one thing, reasonably voicing your opinion is another. ^^

pebblestar-nightclan • 7 September 2012 at 8:30 PM

@karamel
I agree totally. Though, I'll admit I have begged my best friends not to quit, but I've stopped.
I also have to admit it can get annoying when people get MORE of your friends to beg you to stay...

Deleted • 7 September 2012 at 9:34 PM

@pebblestar-nightclan

I totally agree with you. I have real feelings even for people i don't know on eggcave.I post a post without any: 'can i please have you Unipeg because it's rare and i think you'll want to give it to someone lik me who can care for it.' I post with only: i'm sorry you're leaving but i can't change your decision. good luck irl. Some people just annoy me with the way they don't have true feelings: sorry you're leaving and can i please have this and this and this and this and this. it's so annoying

karamel • 8 September 2012 at 5:27 AM

@jupiter_hollow (With your first post), I still believe that it is THEIR choice whether they are quitting. I know it sounds harsh, but seriously, if they choose to quit, they must be final about it :/ And if they're not 100% sure, then just don't say it. Because you'll get people begging you to stay, and since you're not completely sure, you're more likely to stay. To me, it just seems like a way to get attention before you fully (or in the less nicer case, tentatively) leave.

I do acknowledge the people that ask (nicely and politely) for them to stay, and I do acknowledge the people that understand the quitters. I'm fine with them. What I'm not fine with are the extremists - they either say something along the lines of "please don't quit i'll miss you but if you do quit can i take this rare or any other le's because i'll always take care of them" OR "PLEASE DON'T QUIT OMG I WILL CRY AND DIE IF YOU QUIT - IF YOU QUIT I WILL QUIT TOO PLEASE DON'T GO PLEASE DON'T LEAVE x96755" (obviously some of this is exaggerated).

(Again, I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular and I apologise if you feel offended.)

@pebblestar-nightclan It's nice to see someone else agreeing 😊 I've seen those "don't quit" campaigns... :/

jupiter_hollow • 8 September 2012 at 6:26 AM

@karamel I actually though of making a ''don't quit campaign too.'' XD But with the ups and downs of EggCave weighted. 😋 (The next two paragraphs shall be on this topic)

Eh, truth be told, begging should not be aimed towards those who's life is getting in the way. Family problems, better social life, more friends. That's not a mater to be ignored. So, that desicion should be respected. I think we should be talking about people who leave EggCave because they dislike it in general.

If they stay another day and go exploring in EggCave, chatting to people they don't know, going around and making friends, they'll most likely realize that EC has a good side. =3

Now, going back to your point. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Also, all those topics 'should I quit' bother me. It is obvious that that person wants more attention, because they know all too well that such a topic will be provoking a ton of people begging them not to stay. :/ Oh and the beggars, well, ... I don't think anyone can deal with them. ☹️ Except blocking them. XD Which I'd gladly do if they were poking around me quitting (not that I'll ever quit).

Most of the time, that kind of begging is either coming from someone really desperate or people who try to show themselves as oh so nice and compassionate, hoping to receive a jackpot. -.-

pebblestar-nightclan • 8 September 2012 at 6:44 AM

@jupiter_hollow
You are... So right.

I am currently taking a hiatus from Egg Cave until life gets easier, but heck, it's the weekend and I can do what I want. xD (Also, people should learn the difference between a hiatus and quitting. o_o)

The 'should I quit' topics bother me, as well. I've constantly been debating on whether to quit or not, but I've never made one of those topics.

I've also realized that one way to quit and not have people begging for your creatures is to tell only your close friends, and, if you're giving away your creatures, give them to them. Then you can slip away from Egg Cave with ease. ^.^

Also, on that last paragraph, it makes me truly angry. Desperate people, of course, you'd expect, but in the EGG CAVE community, being nice and compassionate, hoping to receive a jackpot is not right AT ALL. It's really very rude, and technically, it is a form of begging, so it shouldn't be allowed.

I have friends who have given me creatures, though.
rin / once-ler gave me, heck, her whole cove. I'm storing the creatures on my secret side once they're immortal
kitty19cat gave me Toad, UponSea, and Uthanila
And I'll gladly give them their creatures back if they want them back. 😊 Like I did with cat, who took Clair back. ^^

karamel • 8 September 2012 at 6:46 AM

@jupiter_hollow I have had thoughts of it but really, I don't think it would help. Most likely it would just set me off - annoyed at myself really xD

I completely agree with your second and third paragraph. However, on the third, they should really consider quitting properly. I don't think they really do :/ Which is probably why people "semi-quit/hiatus" or whatever (seriously, you either quit/take a hiatus or you don't...).

I (also) completely agree with you on the fourth paragraph. Some people are just plain attention seekers :/ I don't like to block beggars because I just don't think begging reflects off their personality... desperate times are for desperate measures and those beggars seem to think quitting is a desperate time 😋

*pokes fifth paragraph* THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.

@pebblestar-nightclan I shall poke your post with my "THIS X5" comment too... 😋 As you can see on page 2, we've had the same discussion (about just telling your close friends) 😊

pebblestar-nightclan • 8 September 2012 at 6:54 AM

@karamel
Ha ha, okay, sorry about that! ^^