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autumnal • 1 May 2022, 2:32 PM

What @aquafaba said. I don't think we should be overly clingy to the rules. The whole point of rereleases is to make creatures obtainable.

autumnal • 1 May 2022, 2:32 PM

I want every creature to be obtainable, and so it makes sense to rerelease a few more of these than normal since there are so few of them. I'm pretty sure they're still going to be extremely valuable.

quinoafuntime • 1 May 2022, 2:34 PM

Yeah, I empathize more with the majority of players who just want a chance to get a dream creature. The fact that so many more than 30 are rereleased, yet they're still selling out very quickly means that demand is still sky high for them. Thus, their values will remain high.

riceboysleeps • 1 May 2022, 2:36 PM

Yeah, look at the Onny. A bunch of those were rereleased, but immediately after they sold out, people were asking x5 or x6 the amount that they were rerereleased for. And that was immediately afterward. I don't think traders have anything to worry about here.

tryvegan4theanimals • 1 May 2022, 2:39 PM

I love the Itea, too! Artist(s), whoever you are, you knocked it out of the park this month 😍

prairie • 1 May 2022, 2:42 PM

@riceboysleeps You will also notice that no one has sold any of those yet. So its kind of irrelevant if no one pays what your asking. I will say it is completely fair for a retired re-release to jump up in price alot though.

quinoafuntime • 1 May 2022, 2:46 PM

I hope people don't pay 6k CC for an Onny immediately after they were rereleased! That's pretty ridiculous in my opinion. Traders will still make a profit, I have no doubt. Like @aquafaba said, I vote that let's be happy that more people will be sharing in the joy of them.

autumnal • 1 May 2022, 2:47 PM

Yeah, Eggcave is already so exclusive (if you haven't been around for years, you're so behind). We really need more inclusivity here, even if it means that a few traders won't be making quite as much profit as they would if the unobtainableness of these creatures was maintained.

viltuvitrast • 1 May 2022, 2:49 PM

Have more than 30 of each been rereleased already? If so, that's awesome 😃

viltuvitrast • 1 May 2022, 2:49 PM

Can't afford em though ☹️ wish so much great content on this site wasn't locked behind paywalls!

prairie • 1 May 2022, 2:50 PM

To all of you guys - I love that you guys are getting your dream creatures - heck, these were 2 of my last 4 on my WL!! HOWEVER when users pay money/money bought points they are paying for what they're promised - in this case that was 2 very rare pets with a population cap

riceboysleeps • 1 May 2022, 2:52 PM

I think people are paying for these creatures that they love, not the promise that other people won't be able to get them as well. In my opinion, there's a difference between making these creatures somwhat obtainable and making them so common that their value is worthless.

aquafaba • 1 May 2022, 2:55 PM

Yeah, it might suck a bit for a few traders, but it's great for a majority of players and I think that overall it's a win. And paying for a creature leads to valuing them (cognitive dissonance reduction hahaha)

aquafaba • 1 May 2022, 2:55 PM

PS - @prairie love your idea for an EC to CC terminal 😊

autumnal • 1 May 2022, 2:58 PM

I vote that we be empathetic to how much people want these creatures and have faith that they will remain valuable. I would have voted to have the original amount purchased in 2010 be rereleased again. My understanding is that many died and were unable to be resurrected, right?

Ian • 1 May 2022, 3:13 PM

just wanted to quell the fears here: the macbot and doovoo population can only double, per the rules of unvaulting creatures. this has NOT been broken during this unvaulting.

poserpanda • 1 May 2022, 3:28 PM

I really enjoyed reading the description of the Mechamotte, not only is it's name beautiful, but the design and description fit it so well! It really does read as if I'm learning more about the Ark world. Can't wait to collect all these moths and butterflies. Congrats to @pbarr !

prairie • 1 May 2022, 3:33 PM

@ian just cause I’m curious about what you mean by population: In the blog post announcing this re-release, you had said they were only ~30 Doovoo on site. Isn’t 60 unvaulted doovoos meeting the mark??

asbe • 1 May 2022, 3:41 PM

These re-releases ^^

bone • 1 May 2022, 3:50 PM

I really would love if all EggCave creatures mentioned the current population in the archives. Have it update weekly or something for any changes.

caylith • 1 May 2022, 4:08 PM

I dobt care a lot about doovoos or macbots. My dream creatures: Cloverli and Wicculin are at my AIM and as nobody trades them now, I bet nobody will be interested in trading them for doovoo and macbot. I'll wait for the November and March next year. They eventually will appear.

caylith • 1 May 2022, 4:10 PM

And I will not be required to sell my kidney for one of them. But I am happy you guys got your dreamies;)

greengrassoftunnel • 1 May 2022, 4:14 PM

Thank you Ian for listening to your players and rereleasing these great creatures! I am too poor to afford them, but I'm very happy for the other people that got them 😊 and I like the new creatures this month too

dragrawr • 1 May 2022, 4:19 PM

There seems to be a lot of chatter going on about the rerelease and I’d like to say it’s a real honor to have them rereleased at all- we should all be thankful here that these beautiful critters will remain extremely rare and keep their charm, thank you Ian 😊

dragrawr • 1 May 2022, 4:28 PM

@prairie I too would like to see a population number in the archives I think it could be very helpful to the players on this site

bone • 1 May 2022, 4:44 PM

Prairie has so many good ideas, I hope EggCave will at least implement the population counter.

izziedragon • 1 May 2022, 4:59 PM

@quinoafuntime I paid 5k cc for mine because I missed release day ☹️

izziedragon • 1 May 2022, 5:02 PM

@dragrawr @prairie I'd been thinking this for a while. Sure there's a leaderboard for creature popularity ranking but it still doesn't tell us how many there are and I'd be curious to know

sprite • 1 May 2022, 5:18 PM

@luv I do not get pings nor did I mention you or anyone else. So it was not needed. Just giving and opinion like every one else.

sprite • 1 May 2022, 5:28 PM

Glad Ian stepped in an cleared it up. So very happy and will be for these rereleases. Too many take the fun out of this game with the values and want to pay more. It will go back up. Why I no longer trade any thing. Makes this site much more fun 😊

sprite • 1 May 2022, 5:29 PM

Now to stalk shops and then try and get some art time in 😃

luv • 1 May 2022, 5:46 PM

With all due respect to all who weighed in - the point I was trying to make was what @prairie said about population doubling. We actually can't re-release enough for "everyone" to get dreamies every time and still have a working market structure - which eggcave relies on.

luv • 1 May 2022, 5:48 PM

And @Ian, grateful to you for stepping in! But I'm still a bit curious about numbers, as I don't want to lead anyone astray or create any confusion ❤️ Did I misread the last blog post with the 30 surviving doovoo comment & there were more, or how does the math get added up?

dragrawr • 1 May 2022, 5:49 PM

@bone @izziedragon I think a cool thing could be a “Population Center” in the archives where we could check the total amount per species when we look them up- because I like how the archive pages look at the moment without any random number on the page 😊

sprite • 1 May 2022, 6:03 PM

Macbot sold out first by a hair.

sprite • 1 May 2022, 6:08 PM

No the market was not working hence the need for rereleases. The market will get back there quickly mainly in part to a guide that has not been updated but still followed. People posted values that were updated without any real proof.

luv • 1 May 2022, 6:09 PM

The fact is, as much as re-releases are a great concept, I've found so far (at least personally!) they don't actually foster much trading behaviour - I only trade smaller things for CC because I'm reluctant to "shell out" when my WL items may be re-released soon anyway -

luv • 1 May 2022, 6:10 PM

and I admit I'm reluctant to trade pets like an onny for their "new worth" when my brain is so hardwired to see that as far below their value. And when I have put up older, rarer things in the TC, nobody's ever biting anyway -

luv • 1 May 2022, 6:11 PM

- or people just say they'll "wait for re-release" for the values to drop. Already, macbots and doovoo are in the TC for 5000 cc - still not a small amount by any means, but when it's a 1400% decrease from their currently assumed value, yes, I am curious about the math. -

luv • 1 May 2022, 6:11 PM

- This is all fine if Eggcave is just about collecting, which is what I tend to use it for. But I'm a casual player by this point who comes on a couple times a month at best, and I'm probably not the long-term market Ian is looking for his players to become -

luv • 1 May 2022, 6:12 PM

- (For more reasons than one.) So if Eggcave is supposed to be about trading and we don't abide by the rules of re-releases (a concept that was already heavily contested and broke formerly stated "rules" and promises to begin with), what are we doing for the site? -

sprite • 1 May 2022, 6:12 PM

No not every one gets every thing hence people don't buy CC and miss out often on the monthlies. Yet there is a push to gain CC by other means?? If split hairs are gonna happen then they were not supposed to happen at all. There was a big push for that, Few more do not hurt.

luv • 1 May 2022, 6:13 PM

- And Ian said this does fit the rules, which I'd then like to reiterate is totally fine and would make my point moot! But when re-releases ultimately serve mostly to make Eggcave a lot of money, I don't think it's wrong of members to question details!

luv • 1 May 2022, 6:14 PM

Ultimately, please know that all I want is to foster a good community for our members ❤️

sprite • 1 May 2022, 6:25 PM

Yay have both cave creatures now 😊 Was able to grab an item from the shop that I was missing too.

heatherm19 • 1 May 2022, 6:34 PM

I'm newer around here so I have no clue about rerelease populations, but I am a curious person and find it interesting that it was confirmed there was roughly 30 Doovoo before rerelease, but there have been many more than that in this rerelease, but there is a 'doubling' rule...

heatherm19 • 1 May 2022, 6:35 PM

Also, again as someone new around here, how are you guys able to count how many have been rereleased? @prairie How are you getting those numbers?

ravensong • 1 May 2022, 6:48 PM

Love the cave monthlies! ❤️

luv • 1 May 2022, 6:50 PM

@heatherm19 The way I did it was to count manually by going to my Macbot (Meme), and then altering creature #s along the top of the URL by one until I got back to April 30th, and then counting up by one until I ran out of macbots and doovoos!

bone • 1 May 2022, 6:56 PM

How many Macbots and Doovoos were released this time?