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despair • 29 July 2015 at 4:05 PM
@metaphor Not everyone, but I have seen my fair share of people that want them for the status of being rare, like what @yam said. Some people do want creatures because they look cool/cute, but certainly not everyone. In the future, if Eggcave changes it's slogan about retiring creatures, re-re...
yam • 29 July 2015 at 4:02 PM
@metaphorI must say I really agree with you. And, even if most people want "Rare" creatures for the status, I think that shouldn't be the direction the site takes. Yes it may be the status quo, but that doesn't mean it's right. The point of this site, once again, is to ADOPT CREATURES YO...
despair • 29 July 2015 at 4:01 PM
@yam I do understand where you guys are coming from, but other sites that do this have always done it. It wasn't something that just popped in 6 years later. And they especially never said "This will never be available again!" Because of this re-releasing stuff couldn't have possibly ch...
metaphor • 29 July 2015 at 3:59 PM
@despair"I'm betting that the reason most people even want certain creatures in the first place is just because they're considered "rare.""Sorry, but here is where I have to disagree with you. As I mentioned in an earlier post, when people join the site, chances are they are...
okami • 29 July 2015 at 3:59 PM
@dawnfurSo you're saying that all the creatures available now and all the ones you have now aren't anything at all? It's possible to trade up towards goals. I started off like everyone else with no knowledge of trading or values. But I learned, and I traded for some of my goals. Yeah, it takes tim...
yam • 29 July 2015 at 3:55 PM
I think a rerelease, if done in a controlled, limited way, would be beneficial for the players and for the site.Those of you talking about the worth of the creatures decreasing, well, that would be a problem if there was some economy on this site that was fragile. But from what I've seen, there is...
netherling • 29 July 2015 at 3:55 PM
@immortalraven is right xD they're never going to be obtainable unless who owns them ever trades them away. @rosaline_kaye Yeah, we cant always get what we want. But when there's a chance to people are going to want to take it. No one "demanded" a re-release, Ian wanted to see what opi...
dawnfur • 29 July 2015 at 3:53 PM
@bluewolf Is it really a toy store if there aren't any toys for sale?I'm not saying that because I'm irritated, I'm saying it because that's how it seems.
despair • 29 July 2015 at 3:49 PM
I'm willing to sacrifice that I can't get a few creature I want as long as it means Eggcave sticks to it's word.
immortalraven • 29 July 2015 at 3:46 PM
Actually a Doovoo egg is impossible to get plus some other critters probably too in lower stages xD There are only two known Doovoo eggs which those users said aren't UFT at all
rosaline_kaye • 29 July 2015 at 3:41 PM
Quoted from @ami_utsukushii 's profile page;"RANT WARNING:I am a firm supporter of re-releases because:Older creatures are hard to come by for new users, it's pretty much impossible. And its not just new users, it's users who have been here for any amount of time and missed opportunities. O...
iceiceice • 29 July 2015 at 3:40 PM
I enjoy the discussion, or argument, or whatever it turned into now. It's interesting and we can see both sides of the issue. I'm not even mad at the people who are against the rerelease because, I admit, they bring up very good and valid points. We may have strayed a little off topic, but eh.
despair • 29 July 2015 at 3:39 PM
Call me what you want, but I stand behind what Eggcave said,I can't possibly make a better argument than "The site itself has said this will not happen."Edit:@bluewolf That seems to be the common thing now. Someone makes a sound-argument and everyone who disagrees gets agitated.Fu...
okami • 29 July 2015 at 3:39 PM
@dawnfurThis is a discussion board, you can't get irritated that not everyone agrees and has counterpoints. And if we're making comparisons to children now, then we look moreso like children who want every toy in the toystore and fully expect to get just that.
dawnfur • 29 July 2015 at 3:37 PM
No matter how much people sit here and argue, someone will not agree. Either they do or they don't rerelease.I know people will disagree with me. I don't honestly care. We look like children not wanting to share our toys, honestly.
okami • 29 July 2015 at 3:35 PM
@ami_utsukushiiIt's still completely lying if things that were retired forever are rereleased. If I understand correctly, forever means eternally, not 6 or so years.
netherling • 29 July 2015 at 3:33 PM
@rosaline_kaye I may not have been on the site as long as you, but I've been on for a while. I have put effort into it. Ever since i started on the site. But as the years go by, creatures got harder and harder to get, and what could've gotten me a dreamie back then is nothing compared to what could...
despair • 29 July 2015 at 3:33 PM
@raccoon I understand your dilemma, but the point still stands that Eggcave needs to stick to it's word.I'm betting that the reason most people even want certain creatures in the first place is just because they're considered "rare." Edit:Another thing is that supporters seem to fl...
rosaline_kaye • 29 July 2015 at 3:32 PM
I wish there was a "quote this post" button.I'm not worried about my cove being worth nothing as well. It is just that I've worked extremely hard for my creatures. It won't be fair to let other players get them without work.Just because it is hard to obtain my "dream" creatur...
raccoon • 29 July 2015 at 3:30 PM
@despairYes, chances come and go, but what about us who don't even get a chance at all?I don't want handouts, I want a chance to actually obtain the creatures I want without having to spend a ton of real life cash on an egg that is just a pile of pixels.
despair • 29 July 2015 at 3:26 PM
Not to mention that "rarity" is user-based.I'm against re-releasing creatures in the first place. Not necessarily just because "it'll make my cove worth nothing. D:"There's creatures I want I don't have that I probably won't be able to get, this certainly doesn't mean I want...
okami • 29 July 2015 at 3:21 PM
@ami_utsukushiiJust because more people want it than not doesn't mean it's right. For me, this is about how rereleasing creatures that were said to be retired forever would be a lie. It would discredit things advertised on here.If 'newbies', or anyone in general, want a better chance at trading...
rosaline_kaye • 29 July 2015 at 3:18 PM
@ami_utsukushii Like I said.It may be hard, but put some time and effort into it. You'll get there. I started off with a Puffup. I participated in events, got LE's, traded them for CC, saved up, then traded with people with that.I just highly disapprove of this.
despair • 29 July 2015 at 3:17 PM
To add something, I know personally, that if creatures start becoming re-released I'm going to just not trade and wait for the creature I want to be released again. Eggcave has relied on creature values for too long, I think it would be, as I stated previously, a huge gamble. They should have done...
netherling • 29 July 2015 at 3:16 PM
@rosaline_kaye Ok yeah, it says they'll be retired forever. But bringing them back, if done responsibly, could be a good thing. Trading for older creatures is hard, especially when people want older creatures for their older creatures. Or tons of money. And looking at these posts, more people want...
rosaline_kaye • 29 July 2015 at 3:12 PM
@iceiceice Well, I guess you have to deal with that. We have worked hard for these critters. We aren't just going to trade them right off the bat.There are always going to be "supplies" available. Events are still going to be coming around. You can get your "supplies"...
okami • 29 July 2015 at 3:12 PM
Like @despair said, even though I'm sure there are ways to rerelease creatures fairly, it'd be lying. I really think that starting next month, start advertising creatures as being potentially rereleased. But don't go back on the word that past creatures would be retired forever.
despair • 29 July 2015 at 3:11 PM
@metaphor Regardless of whether or not that was his intention, that was what was said, like you said a lack of foresight.If they were going to do re-releases, this should have been something that was stressed could happen. 6 years in and then all of those "retired forever" creatures c...
Deleted • 29 July 2015 at 3:09 PM
@IanFirst of all, I must say, I'm glad to see the idea is being seriously taken into consideration, because I truly believe that, If done in the correct way, it could bring a lot of positive things for both the site & the users playing in it.So, thank you very much for considering it & he...
metaphor • 29 July 2015 at 3:05 PM
@despairWell, to be fair, @ian did mention in his first post that creatures were never meant to be retired and then forever unobtainable. Now, is that a lack of foresight on his part? Probably. But I understand what he's saying as well and would be willing to hear him and others out about re-relea...