Rebirth CC thing...

despair • 26 January 2016 at 9:57 PM

@iridescence

I feel like they'll be alot more upset people later, when they log on. xP Personally I was astonished that they just kind of sprung this on us. The price is also very cheap.

It's not the worst, though. Just one flat price for every creature and a bit of a "lol" to stage collectors. xD

mrsgiggles • 26 January 2016 at 10:06 PM

I feel you guys are overreacting with statements like " everyone will be able to get lower stage creatures even Armnae eggs, Onny eggs, Tine eggs, Unchaga eggs etc."

This potion resets a pet. It does not generate new eggs. So where is all these eggs that will ruin the rarity coming from?

veritaspunk • 26 January 2016 at 10:11 PM

@despair

I feel like this is a sort of disppointment for both sides of the equation, especially with the "sprung on us" feeling like the price of the Leaf.. it's like it was made up as it went "in demand".

I realized shortly after I joined unless I had 1,000 dollars or more to invest everything I wanted to do wasn't going to happen any time soon. I joined egg cave for the eggs though 😊. I've had to settle on an always compromising version of the cove I'd like. I guess I was spared that "lol" from those who do collect stages.

lord • 26 January 2016 at 10:15 PM

I think people are worried that the potion would affect the value of the creature's stages.

for example, some people payed more to swap stages or whatever and seeing that you can get the stage for a mere price of 200cc (+200cc assuming you want to freeze it another stage)

Rare creatures are going to stay rare. Onnys are still going to be onny-rare. (for some reason people are always jumping onto tines and doovoos when they talk about value).

i still believe that this should be a limited time offer (along with the leaf thing) and the price should be increased. So OP. I can't handle the power.

edit.
lol wrong account. oh well.

despair • 26 January 2016 at 10:16 PM

@veritaspunk

Yeah, but I guess at the same time they had to conform to demand. Whether or not that was a good idea, we'll just have to see.

I don't care for it but others do I guess. xP

applegranny • 26 January 2016 at 10:26 PM

I agree with most of you. Between this and the other manipulators announced today, all we'll need to do is check in once a month and buy the new stuff! I've already gotten to the point that I just check in once a day to do the cave and see what's up.

burn • 26 January 2016 at 10:30 PM

I mean, like if they gave us a heads up that would be nice because I was trying to trade my Rhine Egg and now I can't because their values have dropped while I was trying to do a stage swap Dx

despair • 26 January 2016 at 10:31 PM

@lord

I think people are worried that the potion would affect the value of the creature's stages.


But...it did tho. xD

veritaspunk • 26 January 2016 at 10:33 PM

@applegranny

hehe well you can't blame egg cave for wasting your time, especially if you can pay one way or the other.

It's easily integrated into a fast moving modern society that is easy on the schedule.

lord • 26 January 2016 at 10:35 PM

I was replying to the people above.

assumed they meant they though people were worried that other people were worried that "rare creatures won't stay rare" when other people were worried that "lower stage dropped in value" because of the potion.

eskimomo • 26 January 2016 at 10:37 PM

@burn I know how you feel i feel like if enough of us send in a ticket maybe they will see but at the same time these days it seems like they don't care as long as they make money ☹️ or at least that's how I feel

despair • 26 January 2016 at 10:40 PM

@burn

Yeah. :/ It definitely wasn't the best way of handling the situation.

I feel like the idea was.....////ok//// but they did not implement it very well. Like at all. And even if they had, I still wouldn't like it but it'd be more accepted, I feel.

applegranny • 26 January 2016 at 10:42 PM

@veritaspunk

No, you miss the point. I'm saying that there won't be anything more to the game than that. We'll all get what we want by manipulating the stages, etc., and, poof, we're done here!

burn • 26 January 2016 at 10:43 PM

@eskimomo

I feel that too ☹️ and now all my trades I've been doing are wasted with stage swaps and everything :c and I just wasted all my money for nothing and I feel that everything I did was wasted.

@despair

It's not that I hate this or I like this idea. I mean, I can finally get the 2nd stage Solis that I've been wanting for ages but I //cant// because now the values have dropped.

veritaspunk • 26 January 2016 at 10:49 PM

@applegranny

I still find interest beyond just evolving the egg, there will be new eggs, travels, another year of events etc.

I think it's ideal to get to a point where "we get what we want" ...

I for one don't want to continually struggle or know that I'll likely never get a Macbot or many other creatures.

.. but that ideal won't happen, and won't happen for all especially.

It does seem to be going more the way of "premium user".

It is an adoption site without the promise to make it a complex strategy hub ... right ?

despair • 26 January 2016 at 10:57 PM

@applegranny

I agree, completely. Took out all the thrill, haha. Even if you didn't mean it like that. xP

@burn

I feel ya, and I def. get your point.

veritaspunk • 26 January 2016 at 11:03 PM

@despair if only Tim was an actual sentient being, we could find out what Tim thought 😋

The thrill isn't gone for me with this site, but how this was all rolled out is bewildering to me to say the least.

despair • 26 January 2016 at 11:13 PM

@veritaspunk

lol.

Well, let me rephrase that. I still love eggcave and its exciting but, the thrill of the hunt seems to have been decreased for me. It could still be fun getting certain creatures,I suppose. x3

veritaspunk • 26 January 2016 at 11:17 PM

@despair It's an adoption site... what or how much of a hunt was expected ? ... this isn't fallout 4 😋 but it's almost as costly as WoW :wink:

shirona • 26 January 2016 at 11:32 PM

As someone who has spent too much money on this site and achieved a good chunk of my wishlist, the rebirth potion is actually very convenient for me. I don't have to spend more CC just to get my favorite stage anymore.

That's also the downside if I ever decided to trade my lower staged creatures, but honestly, I don't mind. Values on this site can be a bit ridiculous.

It helps a little, but it still doesn't decrease the rarity or desirability of those extremely rare/popular creatures.

thechosenflame • 27 January 2016 at 12:30 AM

I don't like this update

mistishackleton • 27 January 2016 at 12:30 AM

It's my personal opinion that this is a really good thing.

I agree that some of the asking prices are nuts for some of these creatures.

You can't be mad because you 'spent so much money'. Spending money is a choice you make in a virutal game.

Change has to happen, and I really think this will make some of the older eggs a little easier to obtain, even out some of the price gouging and make things a little more fair when all is said and done.

As mrsgiggles points out....this doesn't change *how many* of those creatures are out there so rare creatures are still rare, just the stages can't be a cause for inflation of the price to make them totally unattainable.

I know I'm the minority on this thread, sorry for that.

burn • 27 January 2016 at 12:33 AM

@iridescence @despair @mistishackleton @veritaspunk @element

I know that some people like this update, and some don't but I'm just putting out my own opinion.

I have a friend, who has amassed a good cove of all Egg Stage Creatures, All frozen and 69 of them in total. For instance, they have a Draqua Egg, Corphex Egg, Halldrag Egg, Goldox Egg, Gunistar Egg, Flar Egg and I could go on forever but I need to get to the point. They'd spent loads of CC achieving those Egg stage ones... and I don't want to be the one that tells the news to them.

My point is, that they'd spent loads of money to achieve their cove as it is right now, and it really sucks to tell them that their efforts have been wasted, amassing that cove and that anyone could change their Last Stage Corphex's into Egg.

Again, just expressing my opinion.

mistishackleton • 27 January 2016 at 12:35 AM

@burn

When you elect to spend money on a virtual game its a chance you take that changes could happen.

I can totally appreciate people being upset about this change, however, in the long run I think its better for the site in general.

But that is also my own opinion.

sky • 27 January 2016 at 3:24 AM

I can understand to those who have worked their bums off to earn their creatures, and I don't blame them.

BUT

In cases among values, this is similar to the world of trade marketing, in similar cases as such: if you're playing a virtual adoptables site and your only purpose is to take pride in having valuable creatures and to have the say, "I have valuable creatures" I'm sorry, but you're going to need to expect deflation.You can still take pride in that, just know ahead that it may come along with disappointment.

Once you put value onto an object, you're in for a bumpy ride. Similar to trade stocks. Inflation and deflation, it happens, it's upsetting. But it is always better off on the long run, as @mistishackleton has stated. Nothing remains constant except change itself.

"My creature is no longer valuable. I quit."

There was never any value in it if you never truly saw it without it's label.

Just my say. Maybe because I'm not all in for trading off my creatures, I don't care much for "values." I'm just here to collect. Sure, now everything is made simpler to obtain the stage everyone wants, but it doesn't change the fact that the majority of the creatures are retired and will not be re-released. Time will pass, boom, inflation. The creatures you've worked for regardless of stage differences will become as difficult as they were to obtain before.

Apologies if my wording is wonky. I'm half asleep, but there's my two cents.

burn • 27 January 2016 at 6:14 AM

@sky

I agree with you 100%

Personally, I don't like nor dislike this new update - I'm happy that I could get the creatures I wanted for ages. But looking from the larger picture - Looking from the whole Eggcave community it isn't really a great addition to the site as most people care about rarites.

I'm not unhappy that they did this update, it's just that they told it to us in a sudden split second. I mean, if they warned us a few days earlier, it might've saved me from a load of stress.

I was doing a stage swap with my Prath, (which is egg) and the other person was offering CC and a Second Stage one. We worked out a trade, and then the update came. The other person, after seeing the update didn't want to trade and now it's ruined.

Deleted • 27 January 2016 at 7:09 AM

Lol, and there again...

Sorry If I seem to be rude, but usually people could complain about this whole thing for a reason: because they have creatures at lower stage they worked hard to get. Well? Nobody asked you to trade your soul for them, and also everybody should be wary of the fact that changes happens, like in life, and you have to learn to deal with them.

I have a 1st stage hallowolf, and a 1st stage vampyr and other creatures in early stages. I spent a lot on them 'cause they were at child / egg stages, but I'm not upset now that we have the rebirth potion cause heck, everybody now have a chance to get a creature in a certain stage! Geez, people... the news will make happy a lot of people, we have no rights to complain... it's not like the creatures we worked hard for are less valuable now, or that they will be taken away from us, right?

As for the rarities problem... well, so what? Onnies are so expensive alone, and they're even more expensive if in egg stage. It' absurd you have to spend like, a lot, for them, and it's even more absurd you have to spend more for the same creatures just 'cause it's in egg stage, when freezes are sold for 200CC. So the difference in value from stage to stage SHOULD normally be of 200CC and NO MORE. I think the Rebirth Potion just estabilished what should be normal.

Briefly, to the people complaining about their creatures losing value... STOP complaining about everything you see wrong and unfair for YOURSELF, and learn to be happy about something that makes OTHER people happy (and able to have a chance ad things) as well.

Changes happen, people. You can like them or dislike them, but you can also learn to get used to them. Remember, the world doesn't spin just around YOU. There are other people there, too.

barbyka • 27 January 2016 at 9:04 AM

@dream-within-a-dream

Hiya ❤️ Just my short imput on this 😊 I do have some old creatures, and while I would like to have some in younger stages, what I don't want to do is immortalizing all over again XD

It probably will affect users with collections, but to afford rebirth and all the evolving potions you need for immortalzing/freezing, you need to spend some serious cc on a creature, so I don't know how many users will actually spend that 😊

And even if that creature got UFT the owners would probably want fortunes for it 😃

elluwah • 27 January 2016 at 9:20 AM

My opinion on this is pretty much identical to what @wererage said.

Plus, the fact that in order to use the rebirth potion you have to actually have the creature in the first place. If you already do, great! You can get that stage you've always wanted without selling your soul for it! If not, you still have to go through the trading process. And there's still a limit on how many old creatures are in circulation, so it's a tricky thing to do.

This is so much more beneficial to everyone than a re-release, which has been brought up time and time again. At least with this, there remains a set value. And as time goes on, those values will probably increase anyway. It's something to be expected.

So don't worry, your creatures are still worth something if you want to trade them. You should all be happy with what you've managed to collect up to now anyway, it's still something to be proud of. It was just time for a change.

netherling • 27 January 2016 at 9:32 AM

@dream-within-a-dream @iridescence @despair @iceiceice

On the topic of the Potion of Rebirth, I believe it's a good thing but I see why some people say it's a bad thing. Yes, rarities will go down, and yeah probably every stage will become equal in some way, but at the same time, it's not like this is going to cause a ton of trading. There aren't any eggs being re-released, so no eggs are coming back on to the site (yet, i think, but not the cash shop creatures). I'm not a super old user, but old enough, and i see both sides being as how i wasn't very active the first year i was here. The good thing i see about this is that the rarity of creatures made the prices insanely high, and this takes that price down. Ian himself basically said he didn't expect Egg Cave to grow this big, and the population made the prices skyrocket. This changes the prices, yes, but it's a good thing. If you paid a lot, well yeah, it sucks some, but things are prone to change. You buy something expensive in real life and then it goes on sale. Things like that happen. I've spent over $200 on one thing, only to watch it go to $60 within the next 4 years, and I pulled on my big girl pants and dealt with it. Lost money, yeah, but that's life. Hard work gone to waste? Hey look, these people spent years building a skyscraper only for a hurricane to ruin all their work. They really are the ones whose hard work was ruined. And guess what? They either re-built, or gave up. What @immortalraven said, makes sense though. The prices shouldn't have even gotten as high as they did. It's kind of crazy. My water bill and power bill aren't even as high as some of these creature's prices. They needed to be taken down some. One user even said things like this are the reason why you don't pay more than what you're willing to pay for something, because things always change. @wererage has a point too, no one asked some people to sell their souls for a creature. They chose to do it, they deal with the possibility of losing money. Thing that comes to mind: Stock market. You invest and you can either gain money, or lose it. Never think that things will always stay level. Mountains and valleys exist. The economy here is kinda already donked up. If you have a cove full of creatures you love, then you're doing it right. If you have that, but are more concerned about the rarity and the CC you could make off trading them one day, then you're doing it wrong. What matters the most is being happy with your cove, knowing it's going to grow and you'll be able to welcome new creatures into your cove family. I've gotten to the point where i have mostly all my creature's names memorized by heart. I see them as the creatures they are, not the CC they're worth. And besides, most people aren't going to trade these newly reborn rares, if anything now they'll want to hold on to them tighter. @sky was also right. If someone's willing to quit over something like this, then once again, they're doing it wrong. Look at your creatures as things you love, not growing prices.