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rosaline_kaye • 29 July 2015 at 3:32 PM
I wish there was a "quote this post" button.I'm not worried about my cove being worth nothing as well. It is just that I've worked extremely hard for my creatures. It won't be fair to let other players get them without work.Just because it is hard to obtain my "dream" creatur...
raccoon • 29 July 2015 at 3:30 PM
@despairYes, chances come and go, but what about us who don't even get a chance at all?I don't want handouts, I want a chance to actually obtain the creatures I want without having to spend a ton of real life cash on an egg that is just a pile of pixels.
despair • 29 July 2015 at 3:26 PM
Not to mention that "rarity" is user-based.I'm against re-releasing creatures in the first place. Not necessarily just because "it'll make my cove worth nothing. D:"There's creatures I want I don't have that I probably won't be able to get, this certainly doesn't mean I want...
okami • 29 July 2015 at 3:21 PM
@ami_utsukushiiJust because more people want it than not doesn't mean it's right. For me, this is about how rereleasing creatures that were said to be retired forever would be a lie. It would discredit things advertised on here.If 'newbies', or anyone in general, want a better chance at trading...
rosaline_kaye • 29 July 2015 at 3:18 PM
@ami_utsukushii Like I said.It may be hard, but put some time and effort into it. You'll get there. I started off with a Puffup. I participated in events, got LE's, traded them for CC, saved up, then traded with people with that.I just highly disapprove of this.
despair • 29 July 2015 at 3:17 PM
To add something, I know personally, that if creatures start becoming re-released I'm going to just not trade and wait for the creature I want to be released again. Eggcave has relied on creature values for too long, I think it would be, as I stated previously, a huge gamble. They should have done...
netherling • 29 July 2015 at 3:16 PM
@rosaline_kaye Ok yeah, it says they'll be retired forever. But bringing them back, if done responsibly, could be a good thing. Trading for older creatures is hard, especially when people want older creatures for their older creatures. Or tons of money. And looking at these posts, more people want...
rosaline_kaye • 29 July 2015 at 3:12 PM
@iceiceice Well, I guess you have to deal with that. We have worked hard for these critters. We aren't just going to trade them right off the bat.There are always going to be "supplies" available. Events are still going to be coming around. You can get your "supplies"...
okami • 29 July 2015 at 3:12 PM
Like @despair said, even though I'm sure there are ways to rerelease creatures fairly, it'd be lying. I really think that starting next month, start advertising creatures as being potentially rereleased. But don't go back on the word that past creatures would be retired forever.
despair • 29 July 2015 at 3:11 PM
@metaphor Regardless of whether or not that was his intention, that was what was said, like you said a lack of foresight.If they were going to do re-releases, this should have been something that was stressed could happen. 6 years in and then all of those "retired forever" creatures c...
Deleted • 29 July 2015 at 3:09 PM
@IanFirst of all, I must say, I'm glad to see the idea is being seriously taken into consideration, because I truly believe that, If done in the correct way, it could bring a lot of positive things for both the site & the users playing in it.So, thank you very much for considering it & he...
metaphor • 29 July 2015 at 3:05 PM
@despairWell, to be fair, @ian did mention in his first post that creatures were never meant to be retired and then forever unobtainable. Now, is that a lack of foresight on his part? Probably. But I understand what he's saying as well and would be willing to hear him and others out about re-relea...
lykhaos117 • 29 July 2015 at 3:04 PM
Also, I think that the important thing to consider, regardless of the final outcome, is the principles by which Egg Cave stands by. According to the FAQ, Egg Cave is a fun adoptables web site where you can adopt creatures, share them, take care of them, and make new friends. I believe that ev...
iceiceice • 29 July 2015 at 3:04 PM
@rosaline_kaye True. It takes some work and I agree with you. I expect them to work for their wishlist. But the thing is, some of their"dreamies" are not in circulation anymore. No one is bothering to trade them. There are no "supplies" to trade for. If there is, they're p...
despair • 29 July 2015 at 3:02 PM
Even if there was a "fair" way to implement a re-release, it's going against what Eggcave said.They clearly stated that the creatures would not become available anymore. They need to stick to that claim and not stray from what they have told us for many years.
immortalraven • 29 July 2015 at 3:01 PM
Thanks for considering this first off.I think if done reasonably that it would work. Heck I have seen many older players say that when the Florn and such were re-released that it didn't really bring their value down. Now I wasn't there but that is what I've seen quite a few say.I like the idea o...
metaphor • 29 July 2015 at 2:58 PM
@bluewolfMmmm, no, not really. People are saying that they wouldn't mind if we actually had to work to get older LEs--for instance, through quests. Personally, I don't think old LEs should just be thrown back into the cave just like that either, which is why I did mention in my first post that I w...
rosaline_kaye • 29 July 2015 at 2:58 PM
Okay guys, look.Just because you're a new kid doesn't mean you can have the cove of your dreams. You need to put some work into it. Find the right creatures to trade, and find the right people to trade with. Some players have achieved their goals on this website, even though they were new.Once a...
netherling • 29 July 2015 at 2:57 PM
@IanI honestly love this idea. People want to be upset about their cove not being so rare anymore, but the things is, re releases will make a lot of people happy. So if someone's cove isn't super rare anymore, its ok. People are trying to get around $80-$90 dollars worth of CC for creatures, and re...
despair • 29 July 2015 at 2:56 PM
@Orderedchaos For me, yes. I'm not even bothering trading for one because I k ow I can just get one anytime I want. With a little elbow-grease or Oasis stalking, I can obtain one easily.
okami • 29 July 2015 at 2:53 PM
@metaphorIt basically is asking for a given handout when one wants a 10k cc valued creature to become available to the public. The 'newbies' now will have creatures that are highly sought after in a few years. It's just about waiting for the value to increase, as older users have done.I don't...
Orderedchaos • 29 July 2015 at 2:53 PM
I'm curious now. Has the drop in value decreased the demand or desire to own a Drakomo or other endangered creature?
despair • 29 July 2015 at 2:48 PM
@barbyka 500 is alot, but the value has definitely lowered. When they were in the cave, Drakomo's weren't really worth anything, obviously. They retired and I happened to have two of them. I traded both of my last stages for 1.5k CC. I remember it clearly. They go to the Oasis and, while 500 i...
iceiceice • 29 July 2015 at 2:46 PM
(I rambled a little, but I hope you still get my point. I'll edit it later)Copy and paste from another topic:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~When I look at EggCave now, I see a big gap between "new" users who trying to trade for their wishlist and "old" users who's been here quite...
metaphor • 29 July 2015 at 2:45 PM
I think @iceiceice makes a good point that is kind of the heart of the issue here: there is a great gap between the young and the old.The older players have been here through almost every creature release. They've seen which creatures area big hit right from the start and are therefore consistentl...
barbyka • 29 July 2015 at 2:41 PM
@despair I got a Drakomo, just because someone got it in the Oasis and already had the 'original' one. But I paid over 500 cc for it, which I think it's pretty big for only endangered creature (even it was engendered a long time ago). But before the oasis nobody wanted to trade them, especially eg...
dawnfur • 29 July 2015 at 2:38 PM
Okay, a challenge. I have no problem with that. Harder to get creatures aren't a challenge, though. They're next to immposible. Nearly every person who has one won't trade, and some people even keep them after they quit.There's not much more I want than a Tine. I actually FINALLY found someone wil...
iceiceice • 29 July 2015 at 2:36 PM
@Orderedchaos Oasis did lower value, as I noticed. However, as someone who traded a Drakomo for the "lower value," I didn't mind,. People still sought them out. At this point, I'm not very concerned with the numbers anymore. A lot of people seem concern with the economy, but I'm sure i...
despair • 29 July 2015 at 2:28 PM
@bluewolf Yes. I love your wording. Especially the first paragraph. I hate to use these words because I love Eggcave to death, but if they just started re-releasing stuff it'd be almost like false advertisement.Again, I really really really hate to use those words.And yup, future creatures...
rosaline_kaye • 29 July 2015 at 2:26 PM
Quoted from http://eggcave.com/cashshop ;"These are [month's] Cash Shop Monthlies! They are available through the end of[month] and, after that, will be retired forever. Get yours now!"retired. forever.I think EggCave should stick to their word on that, imo.