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totallynotjoey • 21 June 2020 at 2:37 PM
@sinthr I think this is a good idea, especially for those who really, try as they might, can't get their hands on those gorg older creature, it's practically impossible for a lot of them and those who do have the privilege of owning one of those critters likely won't trade it as they themselves want to keep it. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, it's totally understanding and likely something I would do if I had said creatures- but I don't, which is a point in itself. There clearly aren't enough of these creatures to go around and that I'd say it's simply because of the lack of players present at the time to obtain them in the first place, and that's normal, nothing you can do about that. This issue of not having enough tradeable critters from early on is only going to get worse as time goes on, and yeah, the rerelease thing is definitely something that's helping. I like your idea of having easier ways to obtain these creatures, but maybe releasing them for the same price as they we're back then is a bit too easy. If they are to be sold in the CSP then maybe sell them for double the amount, so generally 1kcc, as the CSP is available to everyone so long as they can get their hands on cc, whether that'd be by trading or directly buying it- which many people already can and do. But if we had an event made specifically for these rereleases of older CSP creatures, that isn't as easy, it would mean that even more people can access the creatures, like the newer users who don't buy cc and don't have many crits to trade. Perhaps it would involve some kind of scavenger hunt or like a bunch of feeding, or something. I'm not sure but it shouldn't be too easy as these are oldie valuable creatures after all. This kind of topic is kind of touchy as it's hard to please everyone, there's the newer players who can't possibly get their hands on the creatures they want, the older players who can actually get enough currency/creatures to trade for them, but then there's the og players who have said creatures but aren't as willing to trade them because of many reasons. There's sentimental value, they only accept absurdly overpaying offers, or they want wishlist creatures- creatures that, if even an og player doesn't have, how in the heck will a newer player get their hands on one?? And as a result of this, the only oldie creatures that do end up being traded are traded in the same closed circle of og players. What sucks is they generally don't seek pure cc, only wishlist creatures and those are generally with other og players, who generally don't seek pure cc, only wishlist creatures, and like I said, those are generally with other og players, who generally don't- you get my drift? It's practically impossible for newer players to get in on this circle, and those sought after creatures stay within that circle until they finally get traded into a cove (og needless to say) that will likely keep them forever as they are a wishlist creature. This means that there's one less creature in the already dwindling and minuscule number of tradeable crits of that species, making it them EVEN RARER and EVEN HARDER to obtain. And that my folks, goes right back to the root of our problem.As you can probably tell I'm a rerelease supporter, I think it is definitely helping with the whole situation but I haven't been around long enough since coming back from hiatus to see how well. I'm going to assume that all of the rerelease creatures are ec/cave critters? If so, then I totally support this strike if it means that old CSP creatures can at least become obtainable and not some impossible dreamie, as I have seen on countless wishlists. I myself don't buy cc so I can't exactly take part in this strike, but I'll definitely spread the word. To who? Not sure, I don't know many cc buying people haha.Pings@wildisrishrubyrose(I feel like I lost a lot of brainpower after that, I tend to do so after long rants haha)
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totallynotjoey • 21 June 2020 at 3:44 PM
@sinthr Thank you! 😊 And yeah, I see where you're coming from now. 500cc is already high enough as it is, especially for non cc-buying people. I mean, the macbot is worth like 800 dollars- IN REAL LIFE. 800 bucks for a tiny square of pixels, that's an ungodly amount of money that practically no one wants to spend. Unless they're that set on getting a rare creature, no not because they want it, but because they love the idea of being one of the few people on this site who own one- as you said. There is that saying, money makes the world go round, and good lord it does. Not in a good way on this site either. What ultimately decides what you can accomplish on this site is how much real life money you are willing to spend on this site (which many users are too young/not allowed etc to spend on online games and such), and when you joined the game. And that is entirely up to luck and mere coincidence. Who woulda known that if they joined this online adoptables game in 2009 and kept playing they'd be a literal god in the game later on? If I did of course I would, anyone would. But no, we don't really have control over something as trivial as that. So essentially, your chance of getting all those creatures relies heavily on two factors you can't really control. I myself wish that I had found and joined this game all those ten years ago and gotten all the cool creatures, essentially hoarding them but then trading them away years later to help all those newer players with their wishlists and get mad rich at the same time. But I'd literally be a child with no intellectual brainpower. Anyways yeah I see now why having them at their original price can be good. This game's values are way out of wack and hardly accommodate to new players. Ffs whole coves, and I mean gorgeous coves filled with old CSPs could still be worth only one Macbot, and these people have spent so much time, money and whatnot trading for all those gorgeous creatures, and still, it's equivalent to literally one creature. I don't see why the Doovoo and Macbot are worth so much anyway. It's not like they're the most prettiest, or creepiest, or coolest looking critter out there. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a trend blown out of proportion, like they were cool for a time which made everyone think that they should get it, making even more people think they should get it etc etc. Man if that were true I-Anyways, yeah. People get incredibly greedy and touchy about trading these crits, I don't blame them, they are old and gorgeous, as I've already said, but it does mean that the whole trading system goes haywire, and people can't even attempt to trade for those dreamies they want. I totally agree with the values going down. I had kinda gone with the whole, oh older creatures should be worth more thing simply cause that's what I came into this game learning and what everyone else thought. But it definitely just makes trades that much harder to do.The only rerelease I was around for was the Tray and the current VEND critters (I missed the Tine ;-; ), as I had just come back from like a 2 year hiatus so I'm not entirely sure how all this really happens. There have been suggestions about like a dreamie ticket thing and such with similar aims to this strike- to actually be able to obtain all those unobtainable creatures. It sucks that some people don't have enough time or tradeables to get these rereleases in time as well. It's not like every one of us can spend all that time on EC to get the creatures, as much as we want them. We all have lives out side of this game and going back to your previous post, many play this game to wind down from the stress of real life. Not cool that we get all this new stress from something that's supposed to help destress ontop of all that real life bs. I've all but given up on trading for my dreamies, mainly because it's just not worth all the effort in my eyes anymore.Note: EC team I really appreciate you and all your hard work and dedication you've put into this game. It's taken over ten years to get yourselves to where you are and you should be proud. You've got a great community playing this game that you created, a community thousands strong. As a part of that community I am really grateful and thankful for you guys and you've been doing awesome! These issues are only present because of time passing, and that's not something you can control. I just thought I'd let you know 😊
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yogurt • 21 June 2020 at 4:18 PM
@sinthr I would support rereleasing CSPs, but only if done responsibly. I dont agree that 500cc release price is fair. Like the tine rerelease was pretty irresponsible. They’re everywhere now! So I think that may be where we disagree. 😊Tho if you ask me is I support rerelease I would say yes. So not sure where I stand in this protest... Tho I dont buy CC in the first place anyways.I think something should change but I dont think releasing CSPs for the orginal price of 500cc is fair at all. For the people who actually are paying 15k CC for certain creatures, I for one know I wont find joy in this site anymore. The challenge is part of the fun of trading. Having something that you know you worked hard for is very important for some of us. If things were to be resold in the CSP it should be more than 500cc. I’m sure people would still buy a doovoo for 2000cc. Many creatures are so difficult to get right now so I understand that rather than the challenge I desire it is more of an impossible mission. Therefore with it coming in the CSP for 2000cc or some price other than 500cc, if you really want it you should be willing to pay more for it. With the increased price it is still a good improvement since in the end it will still easier to afford and obtain than as it is now.I’m hoping for maybe a raffle for a random creature every week maybe. You might get something rare. And it will definitely be putting some older creatures back in circulation.Or me and another user was suggesting mystery boxes. Like 1000cc or more for a mystery box that contains a random CSP. Even with the price of 1000cc or more it’s very likely that what you get is worth more than the 1000cc. Most CSPs are worth more than 1000cc after a couple months. (Not including the ones that will be available at the end of the year sale). Maybe you’ll get lucky and get a doovoo. Anyways even with this there should be a limit of maybe 3 or something per month. So people dont abuse it. Maybe a 200cc or 500cc price for a random LE that was from the cave. Still a high chance of getting something more valuable than the 500cc price. Tho ofc I’m sure Ian and the mods can better pick the prices and the limits per month all this is just me picking numbers. I didnt calculate any success rates.
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decay • 21 June 2020 at 5:36 PM
@sinthrI completely agree with you and will go on this strike with you! As I usually spend some CC on Eggcave as a means of supporting the artist!However, I, like some other users, am worried that the CC rereleases could be handled badly and result in some cc creatures being introduced and their value plummeting like crazy (like the Tine) especially since I spent so much money on here to get a semi-decent cove lol. But honestly, right now i've pretty much given up on trading because it's impossible and every time I trade I lose a little bit more because everyone's asking for over offers....It's tiring and at times even depressing as years of hard work and luck just go down the drain...So ultimately I support this.Pings:@novrain62@zantago@rashka@eggberts@valorie100
meisawesome • 21 June 2020 at 5:42 PM
Everyone has this big speach of how the CC system is unfair, and i have a small part in that complaint too. But to keep things simple and NOT a 20 page long story, im just gonna join the rebellion
pwuffy • 21 June 2020 at 5:54 PM
i have always been fully in support of re-releases (cave and CSP) but i agree with some of the other users here that a potential re-release needs to be handled more carefully. with the way egg cave is structured, re-releasing unlimited old CSPs for a mere 500CC each could be really catastrophic to the economy and even make trading become somewhat pointless eventually. i say "with the way egg cave is structured" just because the game itself has inherently set up this system by releasing 99% of creatures once and only once. (there are other pet sites that do not have ONLY limited creature releases, but instead do other things to make creatures rare and worth trading for. this is just not the way that egg cave has set up their trading economy, and that is 100% fine too).i am always a fan of events as they are very fun and allow users to WORK for their creatures in a way other than trading. i know ian has said in the past that old CSPs would never be re-released for less than they were originally valued at (500CC). perhaps there could be events where you must complete activities to unlock a certain creature in the cash shop for 500CC. or, perhaps like old times (which is largely responsible for many old CSPs becoming impossible to get, might i add) re-release CSPs in the cash shop but only for 1-3 days. or, set a limit on how many of a certain CSP re-release you could buy (1 per account or something). the price could also be higher like 1000CC or even 1500CC tbh. it would still be fair in my opinion, but still much better than the current state of the egg cave economy.this is a bit of a tangent but part of the reason why trading has become so hard, is that for the most part, ONLY old creatures (usually CSPs) are worth enough to trade. new creatures are released for so long (out for an entire month, usually) and in such abundance that they are practically worthless. back in the day people traded new cave creatures for CSPs all the time because the cave creatures were still relatively rare since a) they were not available for very long and b) you only had 10 cave attempts per day. period. it is all fine and dandy that EC wants to give us more chances to get new cave creatures and CSPs but it makes the newer creatures utterly worthless in comparison to old creatures. re-releases can help this problem in my opinion.at the end of the day i am supportive of this i just think it needs to be handled with a bit more nuance and care. 😊
arcana • 21 June 2020 at 6:59 PM
I agree with what you are trying to do, and I agree that something must be done. Just so that I don’t post a wall of text, full to the brim with transitions and unnecessary words, I’ll post a list of my thoughts instead. •EggCave is a pet site, and the people who work on it are likely not well versed in how to create, maintain, and fix an economy. •Although it would be nice to hear a statement, people may be already working to create a better economy behind the scenes. •We as a community have told the creators that something is wrong, and I believe they know something is wrong. Fixing it is a different story altogether. That is neither easy, quick, or fun. And perhaps it isn’t possible. •There is no way to please everyone, but I’d personally like a fix that doesn’t anger over a fourth of the site. •If you want to support this, an adblocker is an option. •In my opinion, combining randomness and money is bad. Remember the loot box scandals from a year ago? From a moral perspective, is it okay to take away a source of income, especially at this time? And beyond that, is it justified by what we are trying to do?•Most suggestions I see are trying to fix and add upon our current system. Perhaps we should instead switch to a different system. Or maybe, we should simply start completely anew. •Perhaps creatures could be given out randomly, perhaps they could be re-released when certain milestones have passed, perhaps you could earn creatures through other methods. •Here’s a half baked idea: Similarly to how we keep pandas in sanctuaries and breed them to ensure the survival of the species, perhaps we could have a sanctuary for high rarity creatures. What would happen is this. If every active owner of a certain species agreed to allow the species to be re-released(or perhaps if some other condition is met), then the creature would be re-released, at a certain cost, whether the cost is monetary, or not. This would depend entirely on the community. Every owner would have to consent to have their creature decrease in value. But let's be honest. Some values are impossible to get to, and therefore redundant. What's the point of selling an Onny for pure cash if no one can afford it?In the end, I support changing the system. I have never purchased CC, and am not likely to do so in any scenario. I hope that in condensing my thoughts I did not appear too abrupt, bleak, or blunt. If so, I do apologize.
sandara • 21 June 2020 at 7:26 PM
I do agree with re-releases of CSP, but sincerely I don't agree on it being only 500cc, even if my dreams creatures are almost impossible to get. I think that is what makes the game enjoyable, knowing that you have to work really hard to get a rare creature, and when you get it, you can proundly show it to others. Like when I got my cute Pupkin that is worth around 6k cc (it was a gift), I showed him around EC with him as my creature profile (that made me really active on posts).And I think that if CSP are re-released for only 500cc I think a lot of people will stop playing EC and eventually EC's economy will break, 'cause their creatures that were worth 10k cc (for exemple) would be sold for a mere 500 cc, so their hard work would be wasted, and what is the point of buying a creature for 10k cc if it will be re-released someday for 500 cc? I played for 4 years and maybe one day i hope I will get a Eurog, so it's not hard even if I wait for some more years for it to be 500 cc.I think the solution would be, for each year since it's release the price will go up by at least 500cc - 1000 cc or plus, acording to it's rarity, and when re-released it will have a limit of 1 per main acount and be available for only a day or two or something like, users can only buy one creature a year (they can choose it) with a fair price. This will make more people seeking Cc to buy their creatures and more people willing to trade creatures.To make an exemple, I used to play Pokemon Eclipse RPG (even before, when it's name was Pokemon Moon), there I have a Pokemon that is 7ig (7 in game), so basically there is only 7 in the entire game, one thing about this game is that re-releases are really rare and I knew a person that had a pokemon that was 3-4ig (don't really remember) but it was re-released and became more than 1000ig in some days, to make it short, the person stopped playing the game and quit for sure, he became so upset 'cause it was the only 50-60ig less that he had. I think that if it happens to mine I would be extremally upset too, even if I don't really play the game a lot, I do enter and play sometimes.Well, that is only my opnion, I do suport re-releasing, but not for 500cc and not limitless, I hope I was not rude or anything, it is just that I think re-releases are a sensitive topic, maybe a vote with the entire EC community will help😊
voltagefox • 21 June 2020 at 8:01 PM
I left this site for 5 years. I came back from that recently just to see that absolutely nothing has changed. And will be leaving again as soon as I sell the rest of my creatures because I know nothing will ever change. I've bought cc maybe once or twice. Making ec is not fun, quick or easy. I took one look at questing and realized it's just a waste of time and money. (And the VEND in a creature's profile is obnoxious and unnecessary.) This game doesn't seem to have any interest in new player retention, since over 50% of creatures are retired. If this game adds a loot box system for cc (or even ec tbh), it would make this game more greedy than it already is. I have much more to say about the many problems with this site and community. But why say it? I know nothing will ever change even if I do.
froot • 21 June 2020 at 9:50 PM
@sinthr agreed! I don't buy cc anyways. This entire trading system is flawed. You have the oldies who have EVERYTHING, and the new players are absolutely helpless. And these there's us in the middle, with not enough to sell and not 'poor' enough to be given stuff. It's kinda horrible tbh. We're also busy irl and we don't have enough time to feed for ec, and players are also tentative to trade old creatures for new creatures that are worth the same. It's understandable if they're of great sentimental value, but please hear our cries, I've been searching for an Ornisment for ever and ever and ever, and I'm really starting to feel that eggcave isn't worth my time. People in this game (especially some old players) and getting greedy and are trying to take advantage of newer players in trades, and it's not fun anymore. I should maybe just quit altogether, but some wonderful people on this site are what keep me going. But please, we're getting tired. Change the system, get rid of the greed, we're all just here to have fun.
cheetah • 21 June 2020 at 10:36 PM
I'm very partial to the idea proposed in another thread of having CC mystery boxes in tiers: one set of 250 and 500 CC boxes (or priced slightly higher, like 350 and 600) that give a creature from a pool of all the CC creatures that were released in that month, and another set of boxes that is priced based on relative creature rarity--something like, a box with a pool of the rarest 300 or so creatures priced at 750 CC, the next 200 rarest at 500 CC, and the next 100 at 250 CC, adjusted appropriately so people are getting their money's worth, even if they dislike the specific creature they got. There'd also be a limit of a small number (1-3) per month, and strict no-multiaccounting rules, to prevent people from spending inordinate amounts of cash and the game turning into a pay-to-play (the rules on sending CC to other users to buy their monthly boxes and give you the resulting creature(s) would have to be worked out, but it's a start). I know many people balk at the idea of lootboxes, but I honestly don't see a more effective way to reintroduce CC creatures than this.That being said, I don't really support a strike, as I think the EC team are doing their best with what they can, and losing money may demotivate more than motivate in a case like this. The money is being put back into the site anyway. It's not like the revenue the site makes is paying for Ian's 5th yacht. 😋(edited to include new thoughts on the matter)
magenta • 22 June 2020 at 1:24 AM
After reading through most of these posts I think the general sentiment is there, trading has become ridiculously hard and there should be re-releases in order to combat that. However I believe that re-releasing them in unlimited amounts for 500cc is not the answer bc it will not help trading at all but instead stop trading altogether since everyone can get what they want :/ Furthermore, this will be unfair to players who paid a lot of CC for the creatures they wanted using their own creatures/money and you can say they did this to themselves by paying the amount but how else were they supposed to know that that exact same critter would be released in unlimited amounts later along the line? case in point, tine. Tine release was horribly mismanaged bc of the no limits thing, there should've been max 2-3 per account to prevent a complete collapse on tine rarity and values but to fully bar re-releases because of that one poor release is unfair as well. What Eggcave can do is listen to it's player base since i've seen so many good ideas such as mystery box (someone mentioned this is really cash-grabby and yes it comes across that way but i honestly can't think of a better method to reintroduce old CSPs without decreasing their rarity so much, i had a topic on a dreamie pick ticket as well so maybe that could be considered) and reintroducing creatures from deleted accounts into adoption center for a fee or smth. VEND is too tedious at it's current state, especially cause user shops are so dead rn as well, re-releases can go well but only and ONLY if eggcave listens to it's users and go for middleground instead of no csp rereleases at all (newer users quit) or unlimited rereleases (older users quit).In conclusion, there is middleground, release CSPs with LIMITS and also a slightly higher pricepoint.
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Deleted • 22 June 2020 at 10:35 AM
@sinthr Personally, I have never bought any CC since I've started. My entire hoard consists of trading them for other creatures, like the recent Tines. Which frankly, has a high price of 3kCC. I mean, yeah. It's good if you're one of the lucky few who has the time and spent the effort to get a few eggs but it still costs a lot. It's nice to have creatures that have doubled in price since they were first released, but that's also a bit of the problem.. The prices have doubled, or even tripled. I love your idea of having EC be more valuable. There is a potential now that you can quest for CC, which is quest like crazy, try your luck in the Vend Machine, hope to get a older released creature, then sell it. I was thinking, it's a bit crazy to have the SARS creatures stay there forever. An the newer Deena is 10MEC or 1kCC, so if you're looking for expensive, that's one example. I like having to feed to get EC, but it does get tedious. I would suggest having users create content, like stories and stuff that are more interactive, but I don't quite see that working out. It could be like a game?Different users have different goals, something random, such as.. 'User must have 100EC in strongroom.' or 'User needs to submit 5 candy corn cupcakes.' It should be fun, easy and limited. You may do such fun tasks 3 times a day. Or a puzzle! A creature's picture is separate into several pieces, and there should be a way to get it, somehow. And with these puzzle pieces completed, you get the creature in the puzzle? This could be a fun way to do events. Can someone tell me what the Asteroid event was like? Where you had to defeat the evil Parasetorite Queen. I don't mind the Easter egg or Thanksgiving Hunt, but it's a little strenuous on the eyes.
decay • 22 June 2020 at 10:34 PM
@sinthrI think it’s a little unfair to label anyone who’s concerned about the 500cc price as essentially selfish/ not empathetic. Also, stating that it was a choice to spend that much/resources just really did not sit right with me.While I personally think the original 500cc is a good price, I feel like that paragraph ignored some of the sentiments of people who payed a lot/traded a lot for creatures. I feel like for many people who sacrificed a lot for some creatures, when they’re rereleased it’s a slap in the face and essentially spitting on their handwork.It’s not that we want newer players to struggle and get frustrated like we did, we just want our hardwork to be respected that’s all and rereleasing creatures without that consideration is somewhat insulting as many of us are dedicated Eggcave fans who have spent years trading and yet feel ignored as well.I think that this problem stems from the unbalanced economy as well, and it wouldn’t be so significant if prices and rarity were more controlled....Also, the notion that it was our choice to spend those resources/money, is really frustrating because we only spent that money/ resources because there were no other options to get a creature we wanted because of the crazy economy. We had little to no control over the price or the wanting of the creature other than playing another game or not playing Eggcave. So while I do agree with you stance of rereleasing, the statement you said about those who don’t exactly agree with the 500cc price point just really did not really sit right with me because you more so attack their character than their argument.I just wanna add, though, that you are someone I consider a friend and am not trying to attack or insult you at all. I just think those statements will make it hard for people like me, and who disagree with some points but overall support the cause, to be able to feel comfortable joining the boycott.
sandara • 22 June 2020 at 11:36 PM
I agree with @decay, we did not have a choice but to pay a lot in some creatures, and I did say that it was only my opinion that I was against the 500cc price, and that's why I said that the best is doing a vote with EC's community (not only in this post, 'cause some people don't want to openly say their opinion).I believe that doing this vote will be the best, I will not be against even if the things I don't agree are the one that people vote the most and they decide it was the best choice, because it was the majority.And again, "that is only my opnion, I do suport re-releasing, but not for 500cc and not limitless, I hope I was not rude or anything, it is just that I think re-releases are a sensitive topic"Edit: The truth is, I think that every major changes on EC had to be anonymous voted first, like when they re-drawed the creatures (I liked it, but there were a lot that did not).
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magenta • 23 June 2020 at 5:57 AM
@sinthr why i mainly disagree with the unlimited 500cc re-release thing is that yes that will be good in the short-term since everyone will be happy since we can all get our dream creatures but this will affect eggcave negatively in the long-run since nobody has to trade anymore which is one of this site's fundamentals leading to a completely dead site 😋 trading is the basis on how this site runs and by severely unbalancing the trade system by unlimited re-releasing critters (like tine) will probably lead to more people quitting, it's not about 'hoping people suffer as much as we did' as you put it, it's about the overall well-being of this site and activity, which is why if CSP creatures are re-released a limit should be placed and definitely at a slightly higher price point, say 700cc to 1k cc, you might argue that this is 'greedy' but once again, ultimately, re-releasing is for the site to be active once again and we should be thinking with that end goal in mind instead of just thinking of short-term re-releases.
decay • 23 June 2020 at 6:12 AM
@sinthr I agree with your points (: but I think that there's still this sense of generalization/categorization of all people who want controlled rereleases as people who aren't empathic which I find problematic.Also, It sounds like you're saying if you don't agree with 500cc rereleases just deal with it which I feel is dismissive to some people's concerns.Also, I feel like it's not if we suffered, you should suffer too but more of "consider my suffering while I consider yours" because I suffered, what is equal and fair is different than the standard.I feel like there's a middle ground that could be reached here, at least at the beginning! Maybe when prices get more regularized, rereleases could be more commonplace!I feel like a lot of these fears started with the Tine rerelease meanwhile I was super happy to get a Tine and see others get one as well, I feel like the dramatic drop from 20k+ish to 2k was problematic too and there should of been some restrictions there, not super crazy ones but at least some 😋
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decay • 23 June 2020 at 6:53 AM
@sinthrI don't think it was purposeful xDIt was more of a it could be read this way and kinda felt that way 😋I mean I personally don't mind it 2-3kcc as well, but when I think about it from the perspective of someone who spent like 20kcc worth of creatures, that price range really sucksI agree that 2-3kcc is a way more realistic price and that the real problem lies in it's impossible price beforehand and that it should be the range of so many creatures now and eventually I hope we do get to that place but even though the high price is the ultimate problem, we shouldn't ignore the sentiments and problems that the price drop itself creates because they're unfair as well is what i'm saying.I feel like then another solution would be to make CC more accessible, make it somewhat easier to obtain as the current options are pretty limited and time consuming Again, I think there's a middle ground to be reached that could make rereleases appealing to everyone and I feel like not being able to find that middle ground to make a good chunk of people happy is the reason CC creatures haven't been rereleasedI think that the sanctuary idea is personally really great and addresses these concerns (:
froot • 23 June 2020 at 6:57 AM
@decay I was reading your essay entry and an idea popped into my head...What if, when you manage to collect a certain amount of ec e.g. 2 million ec, you can go to the cash shop and exchange it for 200cc? I feel like that would make cc more accessible.
decay • 23 June 2020 at 7:04 AM
@shadowfaxeThat sounds like a good idea instead of having to exchange with users (:Maybe the EC you convert could be eventually used in like a raffle in something so that it could benefit the players?Like a lottery for older creatures? Then it could reintroduce some older cc/cave creatures for free but it only happens every so often maybe?It's a rough idea but maybe we could come up with something (:
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marythebeast • 23 June 2020 at 10:10 AM
@sinthrI support your strike, I have never bought CC straight from the CashShop before anyways. I think rereleases of old creatures would be a nice opportunity, as long as there is a creature limit per person.
sandara • 23 June 2020 at 6:04 PM
@shadowfaxe @decayI loved this idea, if it is that way then I support 100%, making it something like the Lottery, where it has a limit to how much Tickets we can get and completely random.And I would love a system that we can exchange Ec for Cc and Cc for Ec, that would make things more easy (for that to not be troblesome to the mods, we can put a limit there too, like exchange at most 5k cc in a month -just an exemple).@sinthrSorry for the misunderstanding, I feel like it would be cooler if the older creature gets a label, like getting a emoticon on their names or something just like the vend, just as you said, it would be like a good work award😊