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ʜᴇʟʟᴏ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴀɴᴋ ʏᴏᴜ ғᴏʀ ᴄᴏᴍɪɴɢ! ɪ'ʟʟ ᴛʀʏ ᴛᴏ ᴇxᴘʟᴀɪɴ ᴛʜɪs ɪɴ ᴀ sʜᴏʀᴛ ᴀɴᴅ ᴄʟᴇᴀʀ ᴍᴀɴɴᴇʀ!

ᴀs ʏᴏᴜ ᴘʀᴏʙᴀʙʟʏ ᴋɴᴏᴡ, ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ ᴏɴ ᴇᴄ ɪs... ᴡᴇʟʟ, ʟɪᴛᴇʀᴀʟʟʏ ɪᴍᴘᴏssɪʙʟᴇ ɪғ ʏᴏᴜ'ʀᴇ ᴛʀʏɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ɢᴇᴛ ᴏʟᴅᴇʀ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ᴀɴᴅ ᴄsᴘs. ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ᴀʀᴇ ᴀ ғᴀɪʀ ᴀᴍᴏᴜɴᴛ ᴏғ ᴏʟᴅᴇʀ ᴄsᴘs ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴀʀᴇ ʙᴀsɪᴄᴀʟʟʏ ᴀs ɢᴏᴏᴅ ᴀs ᴜɴᴏʙᴛᴀɪɴᴀʙʟᴇ (sᴜᴄʜ ᴍᴀᴄʙᴏᴛs, ᴅᴏᴠᴏᴏs ᴀɴᴅ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs sᴜᴄʜ ɪɢɴɪs, ᴇɴᴄᴀʟᴏᴘ ᴀɴᴅ sᴏ ᴏɴ). ᴇᴠᴇɴ ɪғ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴀ ɢᴏᴏᴅ ᴏғғᴇʀ, ɪᴛ ᴡɪʟʟ ʙᴇ ʜᴀʀᴅ ᴛᴏ ғɪɴᴅ ᴏɴᴇ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇsᴇ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ғᴏʀ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴏᴡɴɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ᴡɪʟʟ ᴜsᴜᴀʟʟʏ ᴀsᴋ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇ ɪᴍᴘᴏssɪʙʟᴇ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇɪʀs - ᴛʜɪs ᴡɪʟʟ ʟᴇᴀᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴀɴ ᴜɴsᴀғᴇ ғᴇᴇʟ ᴏғ sᴛʀᴇss, ᴅɪsᴀᴘᴘᴏɪɴᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ, ʀᴀɢᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴍɪsᴛʀᴜsᴛ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴜɴɪᴛʏ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪ ᴄᴀɴ sᴀʏ ɪsɴ'ᴛ sᴏ "ғʀɪᴇɴᴅʟʏ" ᴀs ᴛʜᴇ ɪɴᴠɪᴛɪɴɢ ʀᴇɢɪsᴛʀᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ᴘᴀɢᴇ's sʟᴏɢᴀɴ sᴀʏs. ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴏʟᴅᴇʀ CAVE ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇs ᴛʜɪɴɢs sᴛᴀʀᴛᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ɢᴇᴛ ʙᴇᴛᴛᴇʀ, ʙᴜᴛ ᴏɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ʜᴀɴᴅ ɪᴛ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴇᴅ ᴀʟsᴏ ᴀ ᴅɪᴠɪsɪᴏɴ ʙᴇᴛᴡᴇᴇɴ ᴄᴄ & ɴᴏɴ-ᴄᴄ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs, ᴍᴇᴀɴɪɴɢ ᴏʟᴅᴇʀ ᴇᴄ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ᴀʀᴇ ʟᴏsɪɴɢ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇ, ᴍᴀᴋɪɴɢ ᴄᴄ ᴏɴᴇs ᴇᴠᴇɴ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ɪᴍᴘᴏssɪʙʟᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ ғᴏʀ!

ᴡᴇ ᴀsᴋᴇᴅ @Ian ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴛʜᴀɴ ᴏɴᴄᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴄʜᴀɴɢᴇ ᴛʜɪs ʙʀᴏᴋᴇɴ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ, ᴀɴᴅ sᴏ ғᴀʀ ᴏᴜʀ ᴘʟᴇᴀᴅs & sᴜɢɢᴇsᴛɪᴏɴs ғᴇʟʟ ᴏɴ ᴅᴇᴀғ ᴇᴀʀs. ɪᴛ's ʙᴇᴇɴ ʏᴇᴀʀs, ᴀɴᴅ sᴛɪʟʟ ᴛᴏᴅᴀʏ ᴍᴏʀᴇ sᴛʀᴇss & ʀᴀɢᴇ ɪs ᴄᴏᴍɪɴɢ ᴏᴜᴛ, ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴘᴏᴛᴇɴᴛɪᴀʟ ᴜsᴇʀs ᴀʀᴇ ǫᴜɪᴛᴛɪɴɢ ᴏᴜᴛ ᴏғ ғʀᴜsᴛʀᴀᴛɪᴏɴ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴇ'ʀᴇ sᴛɪʟʟ ʟᴇғᴛ ᴜɴʜᴇᴀʀᴅ ᴀɴᴅ ɪɢɴᴏʀᴇᴅ. ɪɢɴᴏʀɪɴɢ ᴀ ᴘʀᴏʙʟᴇᴍ ᴅᴏᴇsɴ'ᴛ sᴏʟᴠᴇ ɪᴛ - ɪᴛ ᴡɪʟʟ ᴏɴʟʏ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ɪᴛ ᴡᴏʀsᴇ ғᴏʀ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ, ᴛʜᴇ ᴜsᴇʀs ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ sɪᴛᴇ ᴀʟɪᴋᴇ.


sᴏ ᴛʜɪs ɪs ɪᴛ: ᴀ ᴘᴇᴀᴄᴇғᴜʟ sɪᴛᴇ ᴘʀᴏᴛᴇsᴛ ᴀɴᴅ ᴀ ᴄᴄ sᴛʀɪᴋᴇ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴏғ ᴄᴏᴜʀsᴇ ɪᴛ's ɴᴏᴛ ᴄᴏᴍᴘᴜʟsᴏʀʏ ᴛᴏ ᴊᴏɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ sᴛʀɪᴋᴇ ᴇᴠᴇɴ ɪғ ʏᴏᴜ ᴅᴏ sᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛ ᴜs, ʙᴜᴛ ɪғ ʏᴏᴜ ᴀʀᴇ ᴡɪʟʟɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ᴛᴀᴋᴇ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴᴄᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴊᴏɪɴ ᴜs, ɪᴛ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴛʀᴜʟʏ ᴀᴍᴀᴢɪɴɢ! ᴜɴɪᴛᴇᴅ, ᴡᴇ ᴄᴀɴ ᴅᴏ ɪᴛ!

ɪɴ sʜᴏʀᴛ, ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴊᴏɪɴs ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʀᴏᴊᴇᴄᴛ ᴀɢʀᴇᴇs ᴛᴏ NOT BUY CC ᴀɴʏᴍᴏʀᴇ, ᴛᴏ ᴄᴇᴀsᴇ sᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴇ sɪᴛᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ ᴜɴᴛɪʟ ᴡᴇ ᴀʀᴇ ʜᴇᴀʀᴅ ᴀɴᴅ ᴊᴜsᴛɪᴄᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ғᴀɪʀɴᴇss ᴀʀᴇ ʙʀᴏᴜɢʜᴛ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ sɪᴛᴇ ᴀɢᴀɪɴ! ʟᴇᴛ ᴜs ʀᴇᴍɪɴɢ ɪᴀɴ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴇᴄ ɪs ᴍᴀᴅᴇ ᴜᴘ ᴀʟsᴏ ʙʏ ɪᴛs ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴜɴɪᴛʏ - ᴛʜɪs sɪᴛᴇ ɪs ᴏᴜʀ sᴀғᴇ sᴘᴀᴄᴇ, ᴡᴇ ʟᴏᴠᴇ & sᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛ ɪᴛ ᴀʟʟ ᴛʜᴇ ᴡᴀʏ (ᴇᴠᴇɴ EC ᴜsᴇʀs ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴅᴏ ɴᴏᴛ ʙᴜʏ ᴄᴄ sᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛ ɪᴛ, ᴠɪsɪᴛɪɴɢ ɪᴛ, sᴘʀᴇᴀᴅɪɴɢ ᴠᴏɪᴄᴇ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ɪᴛ ᴀɴᴅ ɢɪᴠɪɴɢ ɪᴛ ᴘᴀɢᴇᴠɪᴇᴡs), ʙᴜᴛ ʀᴇsᴘᴇᴄᴛ ᴄᴀɴ'ᴛ ʙᴇ ᴏɴᴇ sɪᴅᴇᴅ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴇ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ᴘʀᴏᴠɪᴅᴇᴅ ᴀ sᴏʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ... ᴡᴇ'ᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ ᴄᴏᴍᴘʟᴀɪɴɪɴɢ ᴀɴᴅ sᴛʀᴜɢɢʟɪɴɢ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜɪs ᴜɴғᴀɪʀ ᴇᴄᴏɴᴏᴍʏ ғᴏʀ ʏᴇᴀʀs, ɪᴛ's ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴘᴜᴛ ᴀ sᴛᴏᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜɪs sɪᴛᴜᴀᴛɪᴏɴ! ʟᴇᴛ's ᴜsᴇ ᴛʜɪs ᴘᴇʀɪᴏᴅ ᴛᴏ ʙʀᴇᴀᴋ ғʀᴏᴍ ᴛʜᴇ sᴛʀᴇss ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴇᴄ ɪs ʙᴇᴄᴏᴍɪɴɢ ғᴏʀ ᴀ ʙɪᴛ, ᴛᴏᴏ.

ɴᴏᴛʜɪɴɢ sᴀʏs ᴡᴇ ᴄᴀɴ'ᴛ ᴀʟʟ ᴇɴᴊᴏʏ ᴀ ɴᴇᴡ ᴄʜᴀɴɢᴇ, ᴀ ʀᴇsᴘᴏɴsɪʙʟᴇ ᴡᴀʏ ᴛᴏ ᴇɴᴊᴏʏ ᴄsᴘ ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇs. ғᴏʀ ᴇxᴀᴍᴘʟᴇ, ᴄᴇʀᴛᴀɪɴ ᴄsᴘs ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴡᴇʀᴇ ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ɪɴ ᴀ ᴄᴇʀᴛᴀɪɴ ᴍᴏɴᴛʜ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴀsᴛ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ᴀɢᴀɪɴ (ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇ sᴀᴍᴇ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ ᴏғ 500ᴄᴄ) ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴀᴛ sᴀᴍᴇ ɪɴᴄᴏᴍɪɴɢ ᴍᴏɴᴛʜ, ᴀғᴛᴇʀ ᴀ ғᴀɪʀ ᴀᴍᴏᴜɴᴛ ᴏғ ʏᴇᴀʀs ᴀғᴛᴇʀ ɪᴛs ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴄᴏᴍᴇ ʙᴀᴄᴋ ᴀғᴛᴇʀ ᴀ ᴄʏᴄʟᴇ ᴏғ ʏᴇᴀʀs ᴀɢᴀɪɴ (3-5 ʏᴇᴀʀs, ғᴏʀ ᴇxᴀᴍᴘʟᴇ). ᴏʀ sɪɴᴄᴇ ᴡᴇ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴛʜᴇᴍᴇᴅ ᴍᴏɴᴛʜs, ᴡᴇ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ʜᴀᴠᴇ, ᴏɴᴄᴇ ᴀ ʏᴇᴀʀ ᴀ "ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇ" ᴍᴏɴᴛʜ, ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀ ʙᴜɴᴄʜ ᴏғ ᴏʟᴅᴇʀ ʀᴀɴᴅᴏᴍ CSP ᴀᴠᴀɪʟᴀʙʟᴇ ᴀɢᴀɪɴ ғᴏʀ ᴏɴᴇ ᴍᴏɴᴛʜ ᴛᴏ ᴘᴜʀᴄʜᴀsᴇ ᴀɢᴀɪɴ! ɪᴛ COULD ʙᴇ ᴅᴏɴᴇ, ʙᴜᴛ ɪᴛ ɪsɴ'ᴛ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴏɴ'ᴛ ɪғ ᴡᴇ ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ sᴛᴀʀᴛ ᴛᴏ sᴇʀɪᴏᴜsʟʏ sᴛᴀɴᴅ ᴜᴘ & ғɪɢʜᴛ ғᴏʀ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴɢᴇ!

ᴡʜᴀᴛ ɪs ᴄᴇʀᴛᴀɪɴ, ɪs ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴡᴇ NEED ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴɢᴇ.

sᴏ... ɪғ ʏᴏᴜ'ʀᴇ ᴡɪʟʟɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ᴊᴏɪɴ ᴏᴜʀ ᴘᴇᴀᴄᴇғᴜʟ ғɪɢʜᴛ, ɪғ ʏᴏᴜ'ʀᴇ ᴛɪʀᴇᴅ ᴏғ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴠᴏɪᴄᴇ ʟᴇғᴛ sɪʟᴇɴᴛ & ɪɢɴᴏʀᴇᴅ, ɪғ ʏᴏᴜ'ʀᴇ sᴛʀᴇssᴇᴅ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ᴛʜɪs ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ ᴡᴏɴ'ᴛ ɢɪᴠᴇ ʏᴏᴜ ᴇᴠᴇɴ ᴀ ʟɪᴛᴛʟᴇ ʙɪᴛ ᴏғ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴᴄᴇ... ᴘʟᴇᴀsᴇ, ᴄᴏɴsɪᴅᴇʀ ᴊᴏɪɴɪɴɢ ᴜs! ʟᴇᴛ ᴏᴜʀ ᴠᴏɪᴄᴇs ʙᴇ ғɪɴᴀʟʟʏ ʜᴇᴀʀᴅ! ɪғ ALL ᴇɢɢᴄᴀᴠᴇ, ɪғ ᴀʟʟ ᴜsᴇʀs ᴡᴇʀᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴜɴɪᴛᴇ ɪɴ ᴛʜɪs, I'ᴍ sᴜʀᴇ ᴡᴇ'ᴅ sᴜᴄᴄᴇᴇᴅ ɪɴ ᴘʀᴏᴠɪɴɢ ᴏᴜʀ ᴘᴏɪɴᴛ - ᴜsᴇʀs ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴇᴄ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ɪs ɪᴛ, ᴛᴏᴏ, ᴡɪᴛʜᴏᴜᴛ ᴜsᴇʀs ᴛʜᴇ sɪᴛᴇ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ɢᴏɴᴇ... sᴏ ᴘʟᴇᴀsᴇ, ɪᴀɴ, ʜᴏᴘᴇ ʏᴏᴜ ᴡɪʟʟ ᴄᴏɴsɪᴅᴇʀ ɪᴍᴘʀᴏᴠɪɴɢ ᴛʜɪɴɢs sᴏ ᴛᴏ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴜɴɪᴛʏ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ ɢᴀᴍᴇ ᴀ ʙᴇᴛᴛᴇʀ ᴇɴᴠɪʀᴏᴍᴇɴᴛ ғᴏʀ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ, ɴᴏᴛ ᴊᴜsᴛ ғᴏʀ ᴏʟᴅᴇʀ ᴜsᴇʀs (ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴀʀᴇ sᴛʀᴜɢɢʟɪɴɢ ᴀs ᴡᴇʟʟ ᴛᴏᴏ, ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ʜᴏɴᴇsᴛ). ɢɪᴠᴇ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ ᴀ ᴘᴏssɪʙɪʟɪᴛʏ! ᴛᴀᴋᴇ ᴀᴡᴀʏ ᴛʜɪs ɴᴇɢᴀᴛɪᴠɪᴛʏ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜɪs sᴛʀᴇss - ɪsɴ'ᴛ ʀᴇᴀʟ ʟɪғᴇ ᴇɴᴏᴜɢʜ ᴛᴏ ᴅᴇᴀʟ ᴡɪᴛʜ? ᴛʜɪs ɪs sᴜᴘᴘᴏsᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ᴀ ɢᴀᴍᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴇsᴄᴀᴘᴇ ғʀᴏᴍ ᴛʜᴇ ᴜɴғᴀɪʀɴᴇss & sᴛʀᴇss ᴏғ ʀᴇᴀʟ ʟɪғᴇ, ᴀғᴛᴇʀ ᴀʟʟ!


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totallynotjoey • 21 June 2020 at 2:37 PM

@sinthr I think this is a good idea, especially for those who really, try as they might, can't get their hands on those gorg older creature, it's practically impossible for a lot of them and those who do have the privilege of owning one of those critters likely won't trade it as they themselves want to keep it. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, it's totally understanding and likely something I would do if I had said creatures- but I don't, which is a point in itself. There clearly aren't enough of these creatures to go around and that I'd say it's simply because of the lack of players present at the time to obtain them in the first place, and that's normal, nothing you can do about that. This issue of not having enough tradeable critters from early on is only going to get worse as time goes on, and yeah, the rerelease thing is definitely something that's helping. I like your idea of having easier ways to obtain these creatures, but maybe releasing them for the same price as they we're back then is a bit too easy. If they are to be sold in the CSP then maybe sell them for double the amount, so generally 1kcc, as the CSP is available to everyone so long as they can get their hands on cc, whether that'd be by trading or directly buying it- which many people already can and do. But if we had an event made specifically for these rereleases of older CSP creatures, that isn't as easy, it would mean that even more people can access the creatures, like the newer users who don't buy cc and don't have many crits to trade. Perhaps it would involve some kind of scavenger hunt or like a bunch of feeding, or something. I'm not sure but it shouldn't be too easy as these are oldie valuable creatures after all. This kind of topic is kind of touchy as it's hard to please everyone, there's the newer players who can't possibly get their hands on the creatures they want, the older players who can actually get enough currency/creatures to trade for them, but then there's the og players who have said creatures but aren't as willing to trade them because of many reasons. There's sentimental value, they only accept absurdly overpaying offers, or they want wishlist creatures- creatures that, if even an og player doesn't have, how in the heck will a newer player get their hands on one?? And as a result of this, the only oldie creatures that do end up being traded are traded in the same closed circle of og players. What sucks is they generally don't seek pure cc, only wishlist creatures and those are generally with other og players, who generally don't seek pure cc, only wishlist creatures, and like I said, those are generally with other og players, who generally don't- you get my drift? It's practically impossible for newer players to get in on this circle, and those sought after creatures stay within that circle until they finally get traded into a cove (og needless to say) that will likely keep them forever as they are a wishlist creature. This means that there's one less creature in the already dwindling and minuscule number of tradeable crits of that species, making it them EVEN RARER and EVEN HARDER to obtain. And that my folks, goes right back to the root of our problem.

As you can probably tell I'm a rerelease supporter, I think it is definitely helping with the whole situation but I haven't been around long enough since coming back from hiatus to see how well. I'm going to assume that all of the rerelease creatures are ec/cave critters? If so, then I totally support this strike if it means that old CSP creatures can at least become obtainable and not some impossible dreamie, as I have seen on countless wishlists. I myself don't buy cc so I can't exactly take part in this strike, but I'll definitely spread the word. To who? Not sure, I don't know many cc buying people haha.

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(I feel like I lost a lot of brainpower after that, I tend to do so after long rants haha)

Deleted • 21 June 2020 at 2:54 PM

@totallynotjoey

ᴏғ ᴀʟʟ, ᴛʜᴀɴᴋ ʏᴏᴜ ᴠᴇʀʏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ғᴏʀ ɢɪᴠɪɴɢ ᴍᴇ ʏᴏᴜʀ ɪɴᴘᴜᴛ, ɪᴛ ɪs ʀᴇᴀʟʟʏ ᴡᴇʟʟ ᴍᴀᴅᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴇʟʟ ᴛʜᴏᴜɢʜᴛ ᴀs ᴡᴇʟʟ! 😊

ʀᴇɢᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ʜᴏᴡ ᴛᴏ ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇ ᴏʟᴅᴇʀ ᴄsᴘs, ɪ ᴘᴇʀsᴏɴᴀʟʟʏ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ғᴏʀ ᴀ ʜɪɢʜᴇʀ ᴀᴍᴏᴜɴᴛ ᴏғ ᴄᴄ ᴡɪʟʟ ʙᴇ ᴜɴғᴀɪʀ - 500ᴄᴄ ɪs ᴘʀɪᴄᴇʏ ᴇɴᴏᴜɢʜ ᴀʟʀᴇᴅʏ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴏɪɴᴛ ᴏғ ɪᴛ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ɴᴏᴛ ᴛᴏ ʟᴇssᴇɴ ᴀ ʟɪᴛᴛʟᴇ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇ sᴏ ᴏɴʟʏ ᴛʜᴏsᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ʟᴀʀɢᴇ ᴀᴍᴏᴜɴᴛs ᴏғ ᴄᴄ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ɢᴇᴛ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ʙᴜᴛ ɢɪᴠᴇ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴᴄᴇ. ʏᴏᴜ ᴄᴀɴ'ᴛ ᴘᴜɴɪsʜ ᴀ ʏᴏᴜɴɢᴇʀ ᴜsᴇʀ ᴀɴᴅ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ᴘᴀʏ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡᴇʀᴇɴ'ᴛ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴇɴᴏᴜɢʜ ᴛᴏ ᴊᴏɪɴ, ʟᴇᴛ's sᴀʏ, ʙᴀᴄᴋ ɪɴ 2009. ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ᴇᴠᴇɴ ʙᴜʏ ᴄᴄ, sᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏɴʟʏ ᴡᴀʏ ᴛᴏ ᴘᴜʀᴄʜᴀsᴇ ᴀ ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ᴄsᴘ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴘᴀʏ ᴏɴᴇ 10ᴍɪʟ ᴇᴄs, ʙᴜᴛ ᴡᴇ ᴀʟʟ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ᴍᴀᴋɪɴɢ ᴇᴄs ɪsɴ'ᴛ sᴏ ᴇᴀsʏ ɴᴏʀ sᴏ ғᴀsᴛ, ʏᴇs? sᴏ ɪғ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ʙᴇ ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ғᴏʀ 1ᴋ ᴄᴄ ғᴏʀ, ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴀ ʟɪᴍɪᴛᴇᴅ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴏғ ᴀ ᴡᴇᴇᴋ, ʏᴏᴜ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ᴀ ʏᴏᴜɴɢᴇʀ ᴜsᴇʀ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴀʙʟᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴘᴜʀᴄʜᴀsᴇ ɪᴛ ᴏʀ sᴀᴠᴇ ᴇɴᴏᴜɢʜ ᴇᴄs ɪɴ ᴛɪᴍᴇ?

ɴᴏ, ɪ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ᴄsᴘs sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ALL ᴡᴏʀᴛʜ ᴀs ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡᴇʀᴇ ɪɴᴛᴇɴᴅᴇᴅ: 500ᴄᴄ. ᴇᴠᴇɴ ᴡʜᴇɴ ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ. ᴛʜɪs ᴡʜᴏʟᴇ ᴇᴄᴏɴᴏᴍʏ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ ɪs ɢᴇᴛᴛɪɴɢ ᴏᴜᴛ ᴏғ ʜᴀɴᴅ - ʜᴏᴡ ᴄᴀɴ sᴏᴍᴇ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ʙᴇ ᴡᴏʀᴛʜ 40ᴋ+ᴄᴄ? ɪᴛ's ᴀ sʟᴀᴘ ɪɴ ᴘᴏᴠᴇʀᴛʏ's ғᴀᴄᴇ... ɪ ɢᴇᴛ ʏᴏᴜ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇs ᴀɴᴅ sᴛᴜғғ, ʙᴜᴛ ɪ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇs sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴀ ᴄᴇʀᴛᴀɪɴ ʀᴀɴɢᴇ sᴏ ᴛᴏ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴘᴏssɪʙʟᴇ ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ ᴡɪᴛʜᴏᴜᴛ sᴛʀᴜɢɢʟɪɴɢ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ᴛʜᴇsᴇ sᴏ-ᴄᴀʟʟᴇᴅ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇs sᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ. ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ɴᴏᴡᴀᴅᴀʏs ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡᴀɴᴛ ᴀ ʀᴀʀᴇ ᴛʜɪɴɢ, ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡᴏɴ'ᴛ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ ʀᴇᴀʟʟʏ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴏʀ ᴡᴀɴᴛ sᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ, sᴏ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡɪʟʟ ɢᴇᴛ ʙᴏʀᴇᴅ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʀʏ ᴛᴏ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ ᴀɢᴀɪɴ ɪɴ ᴀɴ ᴇɴᴅʟᴇss ᴄʏᴄʟᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴡɪʟʟ ʟᴇᴀᴠᴇ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ ᴜɴsᴀᴛɪsғɪᴇᴅ ᴀɴᴅ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴇᴠᴇɴ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴘɪᴄᴋʏ & ɢʀᴇᴇᴅʏ. ɪɴ ᴛʜᴀᴛ sᴇɴsᴇ, ʜᴀᴠɪɴɢ ᴀ ᴏʟᴅ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇ ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇ sᴀᴍᴇ ᴀᴍᴏᴜɴᴛ ᴏғ ᴛɪᴍᴇ (ᴏɴᴇ ᴍᴏɴᴛʜ) ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇɴ ʀᴇᴛɪʀᴇ ғᴏʀ, ʟᴇᴛ's sᴀʏ, ᴀ ᴄᴏᴜᴘʟᴇ ʏᴇᴀʀs, ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴍᴀᴅᴇ ɪᴛs ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇ ɢʀᴏᴡ, ʙᴜᴛ ɴᴏᴛ ᴛᴏᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ... ɪ ғɪɴᴅ ɪᴛ ᴀʙsᴜʀᴅ ᴛᴏ ʟᴇᴛ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇs ɢʀᴏᴡ sᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ᴀ ᴘᴇʀsᴏɴ ʜᴀs ᴛᴏ ʟɪᴛᴇʀᴀʟʟʏ ᴘᴀʏ 40ᴋ+ ᴄᴄ ɪɴ ᴡᴏʀᴛʜ ғᴏʀ ONE ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇ...

ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴀʟsᴏ sᴏʟᴠᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ ᴍᴇᴛʜᴏᴅs - ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴡɪʟʟɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ᴛᴀᴋᴇ ᴘᴜʀᴇ ᴄᴄ ᴀɴᴅ ᴄᴏᴍᴘʀᴏᴍɪsᴇ. ᴡᴇ ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏʟᴅ ᴡᴀʏs, ᴡᴇ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴀ ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪs ғʟᴇxɪʙʟᴇ. sᴏ ʏᴇs, ᴀ ʙɪᴛ ᴏғ ᴛʜɪɴᴋɪɴɢ ᴀɴᴅ ᴀ ʟɪᴛᴛʟᴇ ʙɪᴛ ᴏғ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇs, ʙᴜᴛ ɪ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ɪᴛ's ᴍᴏʀᴇ ɪᴍᴘᴏʀᴛᴀɴᴛ ᴛᴏ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴇ ᴀɴ ᴇɴᴠɪʀᴏᴍᴇɴᴛ ᴛʜᴀᴛ IS sᴛʀᴇss-ғʀᴇᴇ, ʀᴇʟᴀxɪɴɢ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴀᴄᴛᴜᴀʟʟʏ ғᴜɴ. ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜɪs - ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ᴡᴇ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ɴᴏᴡ - ISN'T ғᴜɴ. ᴀᴛ ᴀʟʟ. ᴀʟʟ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄᴏɴᴛʀᴀʀʏ, ɪ ᴘᴇʀsᴏɴᴀʟʟʏ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ɪᴛ ᴀɢɢʀᴀᴠᴀᴛᴇs ᴇᴠᴇɴ ʜᴇᴀʟᴛʜ, ᴡɪᴛʜ sᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ʀᴀɢɪɴɢ ᴀɴᴅ sᴛʀᴇssɪɴɢ ᴏᴠᴇʀ ɪᴛ.

ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ʀᴇʟᴀxᴇᴅ ᴡᴀʏ ᴏғ sᴇᴇɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ & ᴛʜᴇ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇs ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴀʟsᴏ ʙᴇ ʟᴇss ɢʀᴇᴇᴅʏ - ʏᴏᴜ ᴋɴᴏᴡ, ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴀʀᴇ ᴀɢᴀɪɴsᴛ ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ "ɪᴛ's ᴜɴғᴀɪʀ ɪ ᴘᴀɪᴅ sᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ" ...ʙᴜᴛ ɴᴏʙᴏᴅʏ ᴀsᴋᴇᴅ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ᴛᴏ, ᴀɴᴅ ɪғ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴘᴀɪᴅ sᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ɪs ᴇxᴀᴄᴛʟʏ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ᴛʜɪɴɢs ᴀʀᴇɴ'ᴛ ᴄʜᴀɴɢɪɴɢ ɪɴ ᴀ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ғʟᴇxɪʙʟᴇ ᴡᴀʏ. sᴏ, ɪ ʀᴇᴀʟʟʏ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ᴡᴇ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴏᴘᴇɴ ᴍɪɴᴅᴇᴅ, ᴛᴏ ᴀᴅᴀᴘᴛ, ᴛᴏ ʟᴇᴀʀɴ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ʟᴇss ɢʀᴇᴇᴅʏ. ʏᴇs, ᴀs ᴀɴ ᴏʟᴅᴇʀ ᴜsᴇʀ ɪ ᴘᴀɪᴅ ᴀ ʟᴏᴛ ғᴏʀ ᴄᴇʀᴛᴀɪɴ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ᴀs ᴡᴇʟʟ, ʏᴇᴛ ɪ ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ᴍɪɴᴅ ɪғ ʏᴏᴜɴɢᴇʀ ᴘʟᴀʏᴇʀs ᴡᴇʀᴇ ᴀʟʟᴏᴡᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴏʙᴛᴀɪɴ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀʏ ʟᴇss. ɪ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴡᴀɴᴛ ғᴏʀ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴛᴏ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴᴄᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ʙᴇ ʜᴀᴘᴘʏ, ɪ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ᴛʜᴇ sɪᴛᴇ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴘʟᴇɴᴛʏ ᴏғ sᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛ & ɪɴᴄᴏᴍᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴡᴀʏ, ᴛᴏᴏ...

ʙᴜᴛ ɪ ʜᴏɴᴇsᴛʟʏ ᴜᴘ ᴊᴜsᴛ ғᴏʀ ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ, ᴀɴʏ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴡᴏʀᴋ (ᴇᴠᴇɴ ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsɪɴɢ ғᴏʀ ᴀ ʙɪᴛ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴄᴄ, ʙᴜᴛ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴀʟsᴏ ʙᴇ ɢɪᴠᴇɴ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴛᴏ ɢᴀᴛʜᴇʀ ᴇᴄ ᴏʀ ᴄᴄ, ᴏʀ ᴍᴀʏʙᴇ ɪᴛ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴍᴀᴅᴇ sᴏ ᴀ ᴜsᴇʀ ᴄᴀɴ ʙᴜʏ ᴏɴʟʏ ᴏɴᴇ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴀᴛ sᴘᴇᴄɪᴇ sᴏ ɴᴏᴛ ᴛᴏ ᴏᴠᴇʀғʟᴏᴡ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴀʀᴋᴇᴛ) ᴀs ʟᴏɴɢ ɪᴛ ɢɪᴠᴇs ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴᴄᴇ.

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totallynotjoey • 21 June 2020 at 3:44 PM

@sinthr Thank you! 😊 And yeah, I see where you're coming from now. 500cc is already high enough as it is, especially for non cc-buying people. I mean, the macbot is worth like 800 dollars- IN REAL LIFE. 800 bucks for a tiny square of pixels, that's an ungodly amount of money that practically no one wants to spend. Unless they're that set on getting a rare creature, no not because they want it, but because they love the idea of being one of the few people on this site who own one- as you said. There is that saying, money makes the world go round, and good lord it does. Not in a good way on this site either. What ultimately decides what you can accomplish on this site is how much real life money you are willing to spend on this site (which many users are too young/not allowed etc to spend on online games and such), and when you joined the game. And that is entirely up to luck and mere coincidence. Who woulda known that if they joined this online adoptables game in 2009 and kept playing they'd be a literal god in the game later on? If I did of course I would, anyone would. But no, we don't really have control over something as trivial as that. So essentially, your chance of getting all those creatures relies heavily on two factors you can't really control. I myself wish that I had found and joined this game all those ten years ago and gotten all the cool creatures, essentially hoarding them but then trading them away years later to help all those newer players with their wishlists and get mad rich at the same time. But I'd literally be a child with no intellectual brainpower. Anyways yeah I see now why having them at their original price can be good. This game's values are way out of wack and hardly accommodate to new players. Ffs whole coves, and I mean gorgeous coves filled with old CSPs could still be worth only one Macbot, and these people have spent so much time, money and whatnot trading for all those gorgeous creatures, and still, it's equivalent to literally one creature. I don't see why the Doovoo and Macbot are worth so much anyway. It's not like they're the most prettiest, or creepiest, or coolest looking critter out there. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a trend blown out of proportion, like they were cool for a time which made everyone think that they should get it, making even more people think they should get it etc etc. Man if that were true I-

Anyways, yeah. People get incredibly greedy and touchy about trading these crits, I don't blame them, they are old and gorgeous, as I've already said, but it does mean that the whole trading system goes haywire, and people can't even attempt to trade for those dreamies they want. I totally agree with the values going down. I had kinda gone with the whole, oh older creatures should be worth more thing simply cause that's what I came into this game learning and what everyone else thought. But it definitely just makes trades that much harder to do.

The only rerelease I was around for was the Tray and the current VEND critters (I missed the Tine ;-; ), as I had just come back from like a 2 year hiatus so I'm not entirely sure how all this really happens. There have been suggestions about like a dreamie ticket thing and such with similar aims to this strike- to actually be able to obtain all those unobtainable creatures. It sucks that some people don't have enough time or tradeables to get these rereleases in time as well. It's not like every one of us can spend all that time on EC to get the creatures, as much as we want them. We all have lives out side of this game and going back to your previous post, many play this game to wind down from the stress of real life. Not cool that we get all this new stress from something that's supposed to help destress ontop of all that real life bs. I've all but given up on trading for my dreamies, mainly because it's just not worth all the effort in my eyes anymore.

Note: EC team I really appreciate you and all your hard work and dedication you've put into this game. It's taken over ten years to get yourselves to where you are and you should be proud. You've got a great community playing this game that you created, a community thousands strong. As a part of that community I am really grateful and thankful for you guys and you've been doing awesome! These issues are only present because of time passing, and that's not something you can control. I just thought I'd let you know 😊

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ʏᴇᴀʜ, ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪ ᴀɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛʜɪɴɢ ɪ ɴᴏᴛɪᴄᴇᴅ ᴏɴ ʜᴇʀᴇ: ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴛʜɪɴɢ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ɪᴛ's sᴏ ʀᴀʀᴇ. sᴏ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴛʀʏ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʀʏ ᴛᴏ ɢᴇᴛ ᴏɴᴇ, ᴀɴᴅ ғᴏʀ ᴡʜᴀᴛ, ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇɴᴅ? ᴛᴏ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴄᴀɴ'ᴛ ɢᴇᴛ ᴏɴᴇ ᴇɴᴠɪᴏᴜs, ᴏʀ sᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ? ɴᴏ, ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪs ɴᴏᴛ ʜᴏᴡ ᴛʜɪɴɢs sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴡᴏʀᴋ... ᴡᴇ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴀʟʟᴏᴡᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ ғᴏʀ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ᴡᴇ ᴛʀᴜʟʏ ᴡᴀɴᴛ & ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜᴏᴜᴛ ᴛᴜʀɴɪɴɢ ɪɴᴛᴏ ᴍᴏɴsᴛᴇʀs ᴊᴜsᴛ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ᴡᴇ ғᴇᴇʟ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴡᴇ ғᴀɪʟ ɪғ ᴡᴇ ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ʜᴀᴠᴇ "ʀᴀʀᴇs & ᴏʟᴅɪᴇs". ᴡᴇ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴀʟʟᴏᴡᴇᴅ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴᴄᴇ, ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ᴀʙʟᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ & ᴏʙᴛᴀɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛʜɪɴɢs ᴡᴇ ʀᴇᴀʟʟʏ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴀɴᴛ... ɪ ᴘʀᴇᴛᴛʏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ɪғ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴛʜɪɴɢ ʜᴀᴅ ᴀ ʀᴇᴀsᴏɴᴀʙʟᴇ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ᴡᴀs ᴀ "ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇ ᴄᴀᴘ", ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴀᴄᴄᴇssɪʙʟᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ғᴜɴ, ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ɪᴛ ᴜsᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ʙᴇғᴏʀᴇ ᴛʜɪs ᴡʜᴏʟᴇ ᴇᴄᴏɴᴏᴍʏ ᴏʀᴅᴇᴀʟ. ᴡᴇ ᴀʟʟ ᴀʟsᴏ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʟᴇᴀʀɴ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ʟᴇss ɢʀᴇᴇᴅʏ ᴀɴᴅ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ʀᴇᴀsᴏɴᴀʙʟᴇ. (:

ɪ'ᴍ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴘɪᴄᴋʏ ᴍʏsᴇʟғ ᴛʜɪs ᴘᴇʀɪᴏᴅ - ɪ'ᴍ ᴛʀʏɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ɢᴇᴛ ᴀɴ ᴀɴᴄᴀʟᴏᴘ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʀᴜsᴛ ᴍᴇ, ɪᴛ's ɪᴍᴘᴏssɪʙʟᴇ. ɪ sᴀᴡ ᴏɴʟʏ ᴏɴᴇ ᴘᴏssɪʙʟʏ ғᴏʀ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ, ʙᴜᴛ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴇʀsᴏɴ ᴡᴀɴᴛᴇᴅ ᴀ ʜᴜɢᴇ ᴏᴠᴇʀᴏғғᴇʀ ғᴏʀ ɪᴛ, sᴏ ʏᴇᴀʜ. sᴏ ɪ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ᴘɪᴄᴋʏ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʀʏ ᴛᴏ ᴅᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ɪᴍᴘᴏssɪʙʟᴇ, ᴡʜɪʟᴇ ɪ'ᴅ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴡᴀɴᴛ ᴛᴏ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ sᴛᴜғғ ᴡɪᴛʜᴏᴜᴛ ᴍɪɴᴅɪɴɢ ᴛᴏᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ. ᴅɪᴅ ᴀ ғᴇᴡ ғᴀsᴛ-ᴘᴀᴄᴇᴅ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇs ᴛʜɪs ᴘᴇʀɪᴏᴅ, ɪ ᴅɪᴅɴ'ᴛ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇs ᴀɴᴅ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇᴅ ғᴏʀ sᴛᴜғғ ɪ ʟɪᴋᴇᴅ ᴛʀʏɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ʜᴇʟᴘ ᴏᴜᴛ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴘᴀʀᴛʏ ᴀs ᴡᴇʟʟ ᴀɴᴅ ʏᴏᴜ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ᴡʜᴀᴛ? ɪᴛ ᴡᴀs ғᴜɴ ᴀɴᴅ ғᴇʟᴛ ʀᴇᴡᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴘᴀʀᴛʏ ᴡᴇʀᴇ ʀᴇᴀsᴏɴᴀʙʟᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴋɪɴᴅ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴅɪᴅɴ'ᴛ ɢᴇᴛ sᴛʀᴇssᴇᴅ ᴏᴜᴛ ᴀs ᴡᴇʟʟ. ɪ ᴡᴀs ʜᴀᴘᴘʏ ɪ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴍᴀɴᴀɢᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ᴡɪᴛʜᴏᴜᴛ ᴍᴀᴋɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ғᴇᴇʟ sᴛʀᴇssᴇᴅ. ᴛʜɪs ɪs ʜᴏᴡ ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ - ᴛᴏ ᴘᴜᴛ ᴇғғᴏʀᴛ, ʏᴇs, ʙᴜᴛ ʏᴏ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴᴄᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛᴏ ғᴇᴇʟ ɪᴛ ᴀs ᴀ ʀᴇᴡᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ᴇxᴘᴇʀɪᴇɴᴄᴇ. ʏᴏᴜ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ʜᴏᴡ ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ɪ sᴘᴏᴋᴇɴ ᴛᴏ, ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴀғᴛᴇʀ ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ ᴡᴇʀᴇ ʜᴀʟғ ʜᴀᴘᴘʏ, ᴀɴᴅ ʜᴀʟғ ᴀʟʀᴇᴅʏ ʀᴇɢʀᴇᴛᴛɪɴɢ ɪᴛ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ᴏғ ᴄᴏᴜʀsᴇ ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ ᴀs ɪs ɪᴛ ɴᴏᴡ ɪs ʙᴀsɪᴄᴀʟʟʏ ᴏʙᴛᴀɪɴɪɴɢ sᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴡʜɪʟᴇ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ғᴏʀᴄᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ɢɪᴠᴇ ᴜᴘ sᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴇʟsᴇ ʏᴏᴜ'ᴅ ᴡᴀɴᴛ ᴛᴏ ᴋᴇᴇᴘ... ʙᴜᴛ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ɴᴏ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴄʜᴏɪᴄᴇs, ɴᴏ ᴀʟᴛᴇʀɴᴀᴛɪᴠᴇs. ᴊᴜsᴛ ʀᴇɢʀᴇᴛs ᴛᴏ ᴅᴇᴀʟ ᴡɪᴛʜ ʟᴀᴛᴇʀ ᴏɴ...

ᴀɴᴅ ɪ ᴀɢʀᴇᴇ ᴏɴ ʏᴏᴜ ʟᴀsᴛ ᴡᴏʀᴅs - ᴍʏ ᴘᴏsᴛ ᴅᴏᴇsɴ'ᴛ ᴡᴀɴᴛ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ᴀ ᴄʀɪᴛɪǫᴜᴇ ᴛᴏᴡᴀʀᴅs sᴛᴀғғ ᴏʀ ɪᴀɴ, ᴍɪɴᴅ ʏᴏᴜ. ɪ'ᴍ ɢʀᴀᴛᴇғᴜʟ ғᴏʀ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴅɪᴅ - ᴇᴄ ɪs ᴜɴɪǫᴜᴇ, ᴀɴᴅ ɪ ʀᴇᴀʟʟʏ, ʀᴇᴀʟʟʏ ʜᴏᴘᴇ ɪᴛ ᴄᴀɴ sᴛᴀʏ ᴜᴘ ғᴏʀ ᴀ ʟᴏɴɢ ᴛɪᴍᴇ. ɪ ᴊᴜsᴛ... ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ᴛʜɪɴɢs ᴄᴀɴ ɪᴍᴘʀᴏᴠᴇ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴛʜɪs ᴍᴀᴛᴛᴇʀ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ғɪɴᴀʟʟʏ ʙᴇ ᴀᴅᴅʀᴇssᴇᴅ. ᴡᴀɪᴛɪɴɢ ᴀʀᴏᴜɴᴅ ᴡᴏɴ'ᴛ sᴏʟᴠᴇ ᴛʜɪɴɢs, ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴀʀᴇ ғʀᴜsᴛʀᴀᴛᴇᴅ ᴀɴᴅ sᴛʀᴇssᴇᴅ ᴏᴜᴛ... ᴡᴇ ᴀʟʟ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴏᴜʀ ᴘᴀʀᴛ, ᴡᴇ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ sᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛᴇᴅ ғʀᴏᴍ ɪᴀɴ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴇ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ sᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛ ᴇᴄ ʙᴀᴄᴋ. ʙᴜᴛ ᴛᴏ ᴅᴏ sᴏ ᴡᴇ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴡᴏʀᴋ ᴀʟsᴏ ᴛᴏ sᴏʟᴠᴇ ᴛʜᴇsᴇ "ᴘʀᴏʙʟᴇᴍs" ᴡᴇ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʀɪɢʜᴛ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ... ᴡᴇ ᴄᴀɴ'ᴛ ʟᴇᴀᴠᴇ ᴛʜᴇsᴇ ᴠᴏɪᴄᴇs, ɪᴅᴇᴀs & sᴜɢɢᴇsᴛɪᴏɴs ᴜɴʜᴇᴀʀᴅ. ɴᴏᴛ ᴀғᴛᴇʀ ғɪᴠᴇ ʟᴏɴɢ ʏᴇᴀʀs ᴏғ ᴛᴀʟᴋɪɴɢ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ɪᴛ. :ᴄ


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yogurt • 21 June 2020 at 4:18 PM

@sinthr I would support rereleasing CSPs, but only if done responsibly. I dont agree that 500cc release price is fair. Like the tine rerelease was pretty irresponsible. They’re everywhere now! So I think that may be where we disagree. 😊Tho if you ask me is I support rerelease I would say yes. So not sure where I stand in this protest... Tho I dont buy CC in the first place anyways.

I think something should change but I dont think releasing CSPs for the orginal price of 500cc is fair at all. For the people who actually are paying 15k CC for certain creatures, I for one know I wont find joy in this site anymore. The challenge is part of the fun of trading. Having something that you know you worked hard for is very important for some of us. If things were to be resold in the CSP it should be more than 500cc. I’m sure people would still buy a doovoo for 2000cc. Many creatures are so difficult to get right now so I understand that rather than the challenge I desire it is more of an impossible mission. Therefore with it coming in the CSP for 2000cc or some price other than 500cc, if you really want it you should be willing to pay more for it. With the increased price it is still a good improvement since in the end it will still easier to afford and obtain than as it is now.

I’m hoping for maybe a raffle for a random creature every week maybe. You might get something rare. And it will definitely be putting some older creatures back in circulation.

Or me and another user was suggesting mystery boxes. Like 1000cc or more for a mystery box that contains a random CSP. Even with the price of 1000cc or more it’s very likely that what you get is worth more than the 1000cc. Most CSPs are worth more than 1000cc after a couple months. (Not including the ones that will be available at the end of the year sale). Maybe you’ll get lucky and get a doovoo. Anyways even with this there should be a limit of maybe 3 or something per month. So people dont abuse it. Maybe a 200cc or 500cc price for a random LE that was from the cave. Still a high chance of getting something more valuable than the 500cc price. Tho ofc I’m sure Ian and the mods can better pick the prices and the limits per month all this is just me picking numbers. I didnt calculate any success rates.

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ᴡᴇʟʟ, ɪ ɢᴜᴇss ᴡᴇ ᴅɪsᴀɢʀᴇᴇ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ, ʙᴜᴛ ᴍɪɴᴇ ᴀғᴛᴇʀ ᴀʟʟ ɪs ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴀ ᴘᴇʀsᴏɴᴀʟ ᴏᴘɪɴɪᴏɴ. ɪ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ʜᴀᴠɪɴɢ ᴀ ɢᴏᴏᴅ ᴄʜᴀʟʟᴇɴɢᴇ ɪs ɴɪᴄᴇ, ʏᴇs, ʙᴜᴛ ʏᴏᴜ ᴍᴜsᴛ ᴀʟsᴏ ᴄᴏɴsɪᴅᴇʀ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ᴀʀᴇ ᴜsᴇʀs ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴅᴏᴇsɴ'ᴛ ʜᴀᴠᴇ sᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ ᴏʀ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴛᴏ sᴘᴇɴᴅ ᴏɴ ᴛʜᴇ sɪᴛᴇ, ᴀɴᴅ ɪ ғɪɴᴅ ɪᴛ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ғᴀɪʀ ᴛᴏ ɢɪᴠᴇ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴᴄᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ɴᴏᴛ ᴏɴʟʏ ᴛʜᴏsᴇ ᴡʜᴏ ᴄᴀɴ ᴀғғᴏʀᴅ ɪᴛ. ᴀғᴛᴇʀ ᴀʟʟ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴀᴛ, ᴀs ɪ sᴀɪᴅ, ᴡᴇ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʀᴇᴀʟ ʟɪғᴇ! ɪғ ᴡᴇ ᴘᴜᴛ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ ᴛᴏᴏ ʜɪɢʜ, ᴛʜᴇɴ ᴡᴇ ᴍɪɢʜᴛ ғᴀʟʟ ᴀɢᴀɪɴ ɪɴᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ "ᴏʟᴅ ʜᴀʙɪᴛ" ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴇ'ᴅ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴜᴘ ᴛʜᴇsᴇ ᴀʙsᴜʀᴅ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇ ᴄʜᴀʀᴛs ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ᴡᴏʀᴛʜ 40ᴋ+ ᴄᴄ ᴀɢᴀɪɴ, ɪɴ sᴏᴍᴇ ᴍᴏɴᴛʜs ᴏʀ ʏᴇᴀʀs. ᴡᴇ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ʟᴇᴀʀɴ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ʟᴇss ɢʀᴇᴇᴅʏ, ʟᴇss ᴋᴇᴇɴ ᴏɴ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇs ᴀɴᴅ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇs... ᴀɴᴅ ɪ ᴍɪɢʜᴛ ʙᴇ ᴡʀᴏɴɢ ʙᴜᴛ ɪ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ɪ ʀᴇᴀᴅ sᴏᴍᴇᴡʜᴇʀᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪᴀɴ ʜɪᴍsᴇʟғ sᴛᴀᴛᴇᴅ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅɴ'ᴛ ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀɴ ʜɪɢʜᴇʀ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ ᴛʜᴀɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏʀɪɢɪɴᴀʟ's... ᴅᴜɴɴᴏ, ɪᴛ ғᴇᴇʟs ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴀ ᴘᴜɴɪsʜᴍᴇɴᴛ. "ʏᴏᴜ ᴅɪᴅɴ'ᴛ ʀᴇɢɪsᴛᴇʀ ʙᴀᴄᴋ ɪɴ 2009 sᴏ ʏᴏᴜ ᴡɪʟʟ ʙᴇ ᴅᴏᴜʙʟᴇ ᴄʜᴀʀɢᴇᴅ". ɪᴛ's ɴᴏᴛ sᴏᴍᴇᴏɴᴇ's ғᴀᴜʟᴛ ɪғ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅɴ'ᴛ ᴊᴏɪɴ ᴏʀ ʙᴇ ᴘʀᴇsᴇɴᴛ ᴅᴜʀɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴛɪᴍᴇ...

ᴍᴀʏʙᴇ ᴀ ʀᴀɴᴅᴏᴍ ʙᴏx ᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ʙᴇᴛᴛᴇʀ, ʏᴇs. ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀ ᴠᴀʀɪᴇᴅ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ ʀᴀɴɢᴇ (ᴏғ +100ᴋ ᴅᴇᴘᴇɴᴅɪɴɢ ᴏɴ ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇ ʏᴇᴀʀs, ᴘᴇʀʜᴀᴘs?). ғᴏʀ ᴇxᴀᴍᴘʟᴇ, ʏᴏᴜ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴜʏ ᴀ ʙᴏx ғᴏʀ 500ᴄᴄ, ᴀɴᴅ ʏᴏᴜ'ᴅ ʙᴇ ɢɪᴠᴇɴ ᴀ ᴄsᴘ ғʀᴏᴍ, ʟᴇᴛ's sᴀʏ, 2017-2020 ʀᴀɴɢᴇ. ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀɴ ᴀᴅᴅɪᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ 100ᴄᴄ (sᴏ 600ᴄᴄ) ʏᴏᴜ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ɢᴇᴛ sᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴏʟᴅᴇʀ ᴀɴᴅ sᴏ ᴏɴ, ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀ ᴍᴀx ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ ᴄᴀᴘ ᴏғ 1ᴋᴄᴄ. ɪ sᴛɪʟʟ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ʀᴀɴᴅᴏᴍ ғᴀᴄᴛᴏʀ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅɴ'ᴛ ʙᴇ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ, ᴛʜᴏᴜɢʜ, ᴀs ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ sᴘᴇɴᴅɪɴɢ ʀᴇᴀʟ ᴄᴜʀʀᴇɴᴄʏ ғᴏʀ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴᴄᴇ, ᴀɴᴅ ɢᴇᴛᴛɪɴɢ ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴅᴜᴘʟɪᴄᴀᴛᴇs ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ sᴀᴍᴇ ᴛʜɪɴɢ, ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴠᴇɴᴅ, ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴇ ᴇᴠᴇɴ ᴍᴏʀᴇ sᴛʀᴇss ᴀɴᴅ ʀᴀɢᴇ... ᴍᴀʏʙᴇ ᴀʟʟᴏᴡɪɴɢ ᴏɴᴇ ʙᴏx ᴘɪᴄᴋ ᴘᴇʀ ᴍᴏɴᴛʜ, ᴏʀ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏ 2-3 ᴍᴏɴᴛʜ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴀ ɢᴏᴏᴅ ɪᴅᴇᴀ ɪɴsᴛᴇᴀᴅ?

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decay • 21 June 2020 at 5:36 PM

@sinthr

I completely agree with you and will go on this strike with you! As I usually spend some CC on Eggcave as a means of supporting the artist!

However, I, like some other users, am worried that the CC rereleases could be handled badly and result in some cc creatures being introduced and their value plummeting like crazy (like the Tine) especially since I spent so much money on here to get a semi-decent cove lol.

But honestly, right now i've pretty much given up on trading because it's impossible and every time I trade I lose a little bit more because everyone's asking for over offers....
It's tiring and at times even depressing as years of hard work and luck just go down the drain...

So ultimately I support this.

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meisawesome • 21 June 2020 at 5:42 PM

Everyone has this big speach of how the CC system is unfair, and i have a small part in that complaint too. But to keep things simple and NOT a 20 page long story, im just gonna join the rebellion

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pwuffy • 21 June 2020 at 5:54 PM

i have always been fully in support of re-releases (cave and CSP) but i agree with some of the other users here that a potential re-release needs to be handled more carefully. with the way egg cave is structured, re-releasing unlimited old CSPs for a mere 500CC each could be really catastrophic to the economy and even make trading become somewhat pointless eventually. i say "with the way egg cave is structured" just because the game itself has inherently set up this system by releasing 99% of creatures once and only once. (there are other pet sites that do not have ONLY limited creature releases, but instead do other things to make creatures rare and worth trading for. this is just not the way that egg cave has set up their trading economy, and that is 100% fine too).

i am always a fan of events as they are very fun and allow users to WORK for their creatures in a way other than trading. i know ian has said in the past that old CSPs would never be re-released for less than they were originally valued at (500CC). perhaps there could be events where you must complete activities to unlock a certain creature in the cash shop for 500CC. or, perhaps like old times (which is largely responsible for many old CSPs becoming impossible to get, might i add) re-release CSPs in the cash shop but only for 1-3 days. or, set a limit on how many of a certain CSP re-release you could buy (1 per account or something). the price could also be higher like 1000CC or even 1500CC tbh. it would still be fair in my opinion, but still much better than the current state of the egg cave economy.

this is a bit of a tangent but part of the reason why trading has become so hard, is that for the most part, ONLY old creatures (usually CSPs) are worth enough to trade. new creatures are released for so long (out for an entire month, usually) and in such abundance that they are practically worthless. back in the day people traded new cave creatures for CSPs all the time because the cave creatures were still relatively rare since a) they were not available for very long and b) you only had 10 cave attempts per day. period. it is all fine and dandy that EC wants to give us more chances to get new cave creatures and CSPs but it makes the newer creatures utterly worthless in comparison to old creatures. re-releases can help this problem in my opinion.

at the end of the day i am supportive of this i just think it needs to be handled with a bit more nuance and care. 😊

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arcana • 21 June 2020 at 6:59 PM

I agree with what you are trying to do, and I agree that something must be done. Just so that I don’t post a wall of text, full to the brim with transitions and unnecessary words, I’ll post a list of my thoughts instead.

•EggCave is a pet site, and the people who work on it are likely not well versed in how to create, maintain, and fix an economy.
•Although it would be nice to hear a statement, people may be already working to create a better economy behind the scenes.
•We as a community have told the creators that something is wrong, and I believe they know something is wrong. Fixing it is a different story altogether. That is neither easy, quick, or fun. And perhaps it isn’t possible.
•There is no way to please everyone, but I’d personally like a fix that doesn’t anger over a fourth of the site.
•If you want to support this, an adblocker is an option.
•In my opinion, combining randomness and money is bad. Remember the loot box scandals from a year ago?
From a moral perspective, is it okay to take away a source of income, especially at this time? And beyond that, is it justified by what we are trying to do?
•Most suggestions I see are trying to fix and add upon our current system. Perhaps we should instead switch to a different system. Or maybe, we should simply start completely anew.
•Perhaps creatures could be given out randomly, perhaps they could be re-released when certain milestones have passed, perhaps you could earn creatures through other methods.
•Here’s a half baked idea: Similarly to how we keep pandas in sanctuaries and breed them to ensure the survival of the species, perhaps we could have a sanctuary for high rarity creatures. What would happen is this. If every active owner of a certain species agreed to allow the species to be re-released(or perhaps if some other condition is met), then the creature would be re-released, at a certain cost, whether the cost is monetary, or not. This would depend entirely on the community. Every owner would have to consent to have their creature decrease in value. But let's be honest. Some values are impossible to get to, and therefore redundant. What's the point of selling an Onny for pure cash if no one can afford it?

In the end, I support changing the system. I have never purchased CC, and am not likely to do so in any scenario. I hope that in condensing my thoughts I did not appear too abrupt, bleak, or blunt. If so, I do apologize.

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sandara • 21 June 2020 at 7:26 PM

I do agree with re-releases of CSP, but sincerely I don't agree on it being only 500cc, even if my dreams creatures are almost impossible to get. I think that is what makes the game enjoyable, knowing that you have to work really hard to get a rare creature, and when you get it, you can proundly show it to others. Like when I got my cute Pupkin that is worth around 6k cc (it was a gift), I showed him around EC with him as my creature profile (that made me really active on posts).

And I think that if CSP are re-released for only 500cc I think a lot of people will stop playing EC and eventually EC's economy will break, 'cause their creatures that were worth 10k cc (for exemple) would be sold for a mere 500 cc, so their hard work would be wasted, and what is the point of buying a creature for 10k cc if it will be re-released someday for 500 cc? I played for 4 years and maybe one day i hope I will get a Eurog, so it's not hard even if I wait for some more years for it to be 500 cc.

I think the solution would be, for each year since it's release the price will go up by at least 500cc - 1000 cc or plus, acording to it's rarity, and when re-released it will have a limit of 1 per main acount and be available for only a day or two or something like, users can only buy one creature a year (they can choose it) with a fair price. This will make more people seeking Cc to buy their creatures and more people willing to trade creatures.

To make an exemple, I used to play Pokemon Eclipse RPG (even before, when it's name was Pokemon Moon), there I have a Pokemon that is 7ig (7 in game), so basically there is only 7 in the entire game, one thing about this game is that re-releases are really rare and I knew a person that had a pokemon that was 3-4ig (don't really remember) but it was re-released and became more than 1000ig in some days, to make it short, the person stopped playing the game and quit for sure, he became so upset 'cause it was the only 50-60ig less that he had. I think that if it happens to mine I would be extremally upset too, even if I don't really play the game a lot, I do enter and play sometimes.

Well, that is only my opnion, I do suport re-releasing, but not for 500cc and not limitless, I hope I was not rude or anything, it is just that I think re-releases are a sensitive topic, maybe a vote with the entire EC community will help😊

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voltagefox • 21 June 2020 at 8:01 PM

I left this site for 5 years. I came back from that recently just to see that absolutely nothing has changed. And will be leaving again as soon as I sell the rest of my creatures because I know nothing will ever change.

I've bought cc maybe once or twice.

Making ec is not fun, quick or easy. I took one look at questing and realized it's just a waste of time and money. (And the VEND in a creature's profile is obnoxious and unnecessary.) This game doesn't seem to have any interest in new player retention, since over 50% of creatures are retired. If this game adds a loot box system for cc (or even ec tbh), it would make this game more greedy than it already is.

I have much more to say about the many problems with this site and community. But why say it? I know nothing will ever change even if I do.

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froot • 21 June 2020 at 9:50 PM

@sinthr agreed! I don't buy cc anyways. This entire trading system is flawed. You have the oldies who have EVERYTHING, and the new players are absolutely helpless. And these there's us in the middle, with not enough to sell and not 'poor' enough to be given stuff. It's kinda horrible tbh.

We're also busy irl and we don't have enough time to feed for ec, and players are also tentative to trade old creatures for new creatures that are worth the same. It's understandable if they're of great sentimental value, but please hear our cries, I've been searching for an Ornisment for ever and ever and ever, and I'm really starting to feel that eggcave isn't worth my time.

People in this game (especially some old players) and getting greedy and are trying to take advantage of newer players in trades, and it's not fun anymore. I should maybe just quit altogether, but some wonderful people on this site are what keep me going. But please, we're getting tired. Change the system, get rid of the greed, we're all just here to have fun.

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cheetah • 21 June 2020 at 10:36 PM

I'm very partial to the idea proposed in another thread of having CC mystery boxes in tiers: one set of 250 and 500 CC boxes (or priced slightly higher, like 350 and 600) that give a creature from a pool of all the CC creatures that were released in that month, and another set of boxes that is priced based on relative creature rarity--something like, a box with a pool of the rarest 300 or so creatures priced at 750 CC, the next 200 rarest at 500 CC, and the next 100 at 250 CC, adjusted appropriately so people are getting their money's worth, even if they dislike the specific creature they got. There'd also be a limit of a small number (1-3) per month, and strict no-multiaccounting rules, to prevent people from spending inordinate amounts of cash and the game turning into a pay-to-play (the rules on sending CC to other users to buy their monthly boxes and give you the resulting creature(s) would have to be worked out, but it's a start). I know many people balk at the idea of lootboxes, but I honestly don't see a more effective way to reintroduce CC creatures than this.

That being said, I don't really support a strike, as I think the EC team are doing their best with what they can, and losing money may demotivate more than motivate in a case like this. The money is being put back into the site anyway. It's not like the revenue the site makes is paying for Ian's 5th yacht. 😋

(edited to include new thoughts on the matter)

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magenta • 22 June 2020 at 1:24 AM

After reading through most of these posts I think the general sentiment is there, trading has become ridiculously hard and there should be re-releases in order to combat that. However I believe that re-releasing them in unlimited amounts for 500cc is not the answer bc it will not help trading at all but instead stop trading altogether since everyone can get what they want :/ Furthermore, this will be unfair to players who paid a lot of CC for the creatures they wanted using their own creatures/money and you can say they did this to themselves by paying the amount but how else were they supposed to know that that exact same critter would be released in unlimited amounts later along the line? case in point, tine. Tine release was horribly mismanaged bc of the no limits thing, there should've been max 2-3 per account to prevent a complete collapse on tine rarity and values but to fully bar re-releases because of that one poor release is unfair as well.
What Eggcave can do is listen to it's player base since i've seen so many good ideas such as mystery box (someone mentioned this is really cash-grabby and yes it comes across that way but i honestly can't think of a better method to reintroduce old CSPs without decreasing their rarity so much, i had a topic on a dreamie pick ticket as well so maybe that could be considered) and reintroducing creatures from deleted accounts into adoption center for a fee or smth. VEND is too tedious at it's current state, especially cause user shops are so dead rn as well, re-releases can go well but only and ONLY if eggcave listens to it's users and go for middleground instead of no csp rereleases at all (newer users quit) or unlimited rereleases (older users quit).
In conclusion, there is middleground, release CSPs with LIMITS and also a slightly higher pricepoint.

Deleted • 22 June 2020 at 3:41 AM

ɪ ᴛʀᴜʟʏ ᴡɪsʜ ɪ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ʀᴇᴘʟʏ ᴛᴏ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ, ʙᴜᴛ ɪ'ᴅ ᴛᴀᴋᴇ ᴀ ʟɪғᴇ ʟᴏʟ ᴀɴᴅ ɪ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ɪ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ sɪɴᴛᴇᴛɪᴢᴇ ɪᴛ ᴛᴏ ᴀᴠᴏɪᴅ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ɢᴇᴛᴛɪɴɢ ʙᴏʀᴇᴅ ᴀs ᴡᴇʟʟ.

• ɪ ᴘᴇʀsᴏɴᴀʟʟʏ (ʙᴜᴛ ᴛʜɪs ɪs ᴀ ᴘᴇʀsᴏɴᴀʟ ᴏᴘɪɴɪᴏɴ, ʏᴇs) ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ sᴇᴇ ᴀɴʏᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴡʀᴏɴɢ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴄsᴘs ʙᴇɪɴɢ ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ ᴏʀɪɢɪɴᴀʟ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ - ᴀs ɪ sᴀɪᴅ, ɪᴛ ɪsɴ'ᴛ ғᴀɪʀ ᴛᴏ "ᴘᴜɴɪsʜ" ɴᴇᴡ ᴜsᴇʀs ᴊᴜsᴛ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴅɪᴅɴᴛ ᴊᴏɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ sɪᴛᴇ ɪɴ ᴀ sᴘᴇᴄɪғɪᴄ ʏᴇᴀʀs. ᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏɴᴇ ᴡʜᴏ sᴘᴇɴᴛ ᴀ ʟᴏᴛ ᴏғ ᴄᴄ, ᴛɪᴍᴇ & ᴇғғᴏʀᴛ ᴛᴏ ɢᴇᴛ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs (ɪ ᴅɪᴅ ᴀs ᴡᴇʟʟ) ɪ sᴀʏ ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇs, ᴇᴠᴇɴ ᴀᴛ ᴛʜᴇ sᴀᴍᴇ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ, ᴡᴏɴ'ᴛ ᴛᴀᴋᴇ ᴀᴡᴀʏ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪᴛ ᴡᴀs ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴏᴡɴ ᴄʜᴏɪᴄᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴘᴀʏ sᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ. ᴊᴜsᴛ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ʏᴏᴜ ᴅɪᴅ sᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴡᴀʏ ᴅᴏᴇsɴ'ᴛ ᴍᴇᴀɴ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ sᴇʟʟ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ sᴏᴜʟ ғᴏʀ ᴏɴᴇ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇ, ᴇsᴘᴇᴄɪᴀʟʟʏ ɪғ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴇɴᴏᴜɢʜ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ʀᴇsᴏᴜʀᴄᴇs. ᴛʜɪs ᴘʀᴏᴠᴇs ᴍʏ ᴘᴏɪɴᴛ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴡᴀɴᴛ ᴛᴏ ғᴇᴇʟ ᴛʜᴇʏ ʜᴀᴠᴇ sᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ʀᴀʀᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇʏ... "ɪ sᴘᴇɴᴛ sᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜɪs ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇ, ɪ'ᴍ ʜᴀᴘᴘʏ ɪᴛ ɪs sᴏ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇʏ 'ᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ɴᴏʙᴏᴅʏ ᴇʟsᴇ ᴄᴀɴ ᴇᴀsɪʟʏ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ɪᴛ". ᴛʜɪs. ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴇᴍᴘʜᴀᴛʏ ɢᴏɪɴɢ ᴀʀᴏᴜɴᴅ = ᴍᴏʀᴇ ʜᴀᴘᴘɪɴᴇss. ɪ ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ɪᴛ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴋɪʟʟ ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ, ɪᴍᴏ ɪᴛ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ɪɴᴄᴇɴᴛɪᴠᴀᴛᴇ ɪᴛ! ᴄ:

• ɪ ᴀɢʀᴇᴇ, ᴛʜᴏᴜɢʜ, ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪᴛ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ʜᴀɴᴅʟᴇᴅ ɪɴ ᴀɴ ᴇɴᴛɪʀᴇʟʏ ᴅɪғғᴇʀᴇɴᴛ ᴡᴀʏ (= ᴡʜᴏʟᴇ ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴄʜᴀɴɢᴇᴅ ᴛᴏᴏ) ᴛ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ ʜᴀᴘᴘʏ. ғᴏʀ ᴇxᴀᴍᴘʟᴇ, ɪᴛ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ᴀᴛ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏʀɪɢɪɴᴀʟ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ, ʙᴜᴛ ʟɪᴍɪᴛᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴏɴᴇ ᴘᴇʀ ᴜsᴇʀ ᴀɴᴅ ɢɪᴠᴇɴ ᴏᴜᴛ ᴅᴜʀɪɴɢ ᴀ sɪᴛᴇ ᴇᴠᴇɴᴛ (ᴘʟᴏᴛ ᴡɪᴛʜ sᴇᴠᴇʀᴀʟ ᴛᴀsᴋ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴍɪɢʜᴛ ɪɴᴄʟᴜᴅᴇ ғᴇᴇᴅɪɴɢ, ғɪɴᴅɪɴɢ ʜɪɴᴛs ᴀɴᴅ sᴏ ᴏɴ) ᴛᴏ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴇʀsᴏɴ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴀᴄᴛᴜᴀʟʟʏ "ᴡᴏʀᴋ ʜᴀʀᴅ" ᴛᴏ ɢᴇᴛ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇ. ɪ'ᴍ ᴜᴘ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜɪs ᴀs ᴡᴇʟʟ ᴀs ʟᴏɴɢ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ ᴄᴀɴ ʙᴇ ɢɪᴠᴇɴ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴᴄᴇ. ᴡᴇ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ sᴛᴏᴘ ᴛʜɪs ᴇʟɪᴛᴀʀɪsᴍ ᴡᴇ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʀɪɢʜᴛ ɴᴏᴡ, ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪs ᴛʀᴜʟʏ ᴀ ʜᴜɢᴇ ʜᴇᴀᴅᴀᴄʜᴇ.

• ɪ ᴀɢʀᴇᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ sᴇɴᴛɪᴍᴇɴᴛ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ᴛʜᴇ sᴛᴀғғᴇʀs ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʀᴜsᴛ ᴍᴇ, ɪ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡᴏʀᴋ ʜᴀʀᴅ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇ sɪᴛᴇ, ɪᴛ's ᴊᴜsᴛ... ᴡᴇʟʟ, ɪᴛ ғᴇᴇʟs ᴀ ʙɪᴛ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴡᴇ'ʀᴇ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ɪɢɴᴏʀᴇᴅ ᴇxᴀᴄᴛʟʏ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ɪsɴ'ᴛ ᴀɴ ᴏғғɪᴄɪᴀʟ sᴛᴀᴛᴇᴍᴇɴᴛ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ᴛʜɪs ɪssᴜᴇ - ʟᴀsᴛ ᴏɴᴇ ᴡᴀs ғʀᴏᴍ 5 ʏᴇᴀʀs ᴀɢᴏ ᴀɴᴅ ᴇɴᴅᴇᴅ ᴜᴘ ᴘʀᴇᴛᴛʏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀ "ᴡᴇ'ʟʟ sᴇᴇ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ᴡᴇ ᴄᴀɴ ᴅᴏ". ɪᴛ's ʙᴇᴇɴ ғɪᴠᴇ ʏᴇᴀʀs, ᴀɴᴅ ɪ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ɪᴛ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ɴɪᴄᴇ ɪғ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ᴡᴀs ᴀ ᴅɪᴀʟᴏɢᴜᴇ ʙᴇᴛᴡᴇᴇɴ ᴜsᴇʀs ᴀɴᴅ sᴛᴀғғ sᴏ ᴛᴏ ᴀᴄᴛᴜᴀʟʟʏ ᴛʀʏ ᴛᴏ ғɪx ᴛʜᴇ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ.

• ɪ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴇ sᴀɴᴄᴛᴜᴀʀʏ ɪᴅᴇᴀ, ʙᴜᴛ ɪ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴄᴀsᴇ sᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ʜᴀɴᴅʟᴇᴅ ʙʏ sᴛᴀғғ, ɴᴏᴛ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴜɴɪᴛʏ. ɪ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ᴍᴀɴʏ "ɢʀᴇᴇᴅʏ" ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅɴ'ᴛ sʜᴀʀᴇ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇ sᴀᴋᴇ ᴏғ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏɴʟʏ ᴏɴᴇs ᴛᴏ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ʀᴀʀᴇ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ ᴄᴏᴠᴇ. ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙʀᴇᴀᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴏɪɴᴛ ᴏғ ɪᴛ ᴀʟʟ, ᴛᴏ ɢɪᴠᴇ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴᴄᴇ!

• ɪ ᴀʟsᴏ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ɪᴛ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴀ ɢᴏᴏᴅ ɪᴅᴇᴀ ᴛᴏ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴇᴄ ᴘʟᴀʏ ᴀ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ɪᴍᴘᴏʀᴛᴀɴᴛ ʀᴏʟᴇ, sᴏ ᴛʀᴀᴅɪɴɢ ᴇᴄ ғᴏʀ ᴄᴄ & ᴄsᴘs ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴀᴄᴄᴇssɪʙʟᴇ. ᴍᴏʀᴇ ɢᴀᴍᴇs & ᴀᴄᴛɪᴠɪᴛɪᴇs ᴛᴏ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴄᴄ ᴀɴᴅ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴀʀᴇ ᴇᴄ ᴇxᴄʟᴜsɪᴠᴇ, ғᴏʀ ᴇxᴀᴍᴘʟᴇ (ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇʏ sᴀʀ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs).

• ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇɴᴅ ᴀɴᴅ ɪɴ sʜᴏʀᴛ... ᴡᴇ ᴀʟʟ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴏᴜʀ ᴏᴘɪɴɪᴏɴs & sᴜɢɢᴇsᴛɪᴏɴ, ʙᴜᴛ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ɪ'ᴍ sᴛʀᴇssɪɴɢ & ᴘᴏɪɴᴛɪɴɢ ᴏᴜᴛ ɪs... ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴡᴇ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴛʜɪɴɢs ᴛᴏ ᴄʜᴀɴɢᴇ. ᴛʜɪs sʏsᴛᴇᴍ ɪs ᴄʟᴇᴀʀʟʏ ʙʀᴏᴋᴇɴ & ᴜɴғᴀɪʀ, ɪᴛ sᴘʀᴇᴀᴅs ᴜɴʜᴀᴘᴘɪɴᴇss & sᴛʀᴇss... ᴡᴇ ɴᴇᴇᴅ sᴛᴀғғᴇʀs & ɪᴀɴ ᴛᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴋ ᴛᴏ ᴜs, ᴛᴏ ʟᴇᴛ ᴜs ᴋɴᴏᴡ ɪғ ᴡᴇ'ʀᴇ ʜᴏᴘɪɴɢ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴀɪᴛɪɴɢ ғᴏʀ ɴᴏᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴏʀ ɪғ ᴛʜᴇʏ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴀᴛ ʟᴇᴀsᴛ ᴛʜᴇ ɪɴᴛᴇɴᴛ ᴏғ ᴅᴏɪɴɢ sᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ɪᴛ.

• ɪ ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ɪᴅᴇᴀ ᴏғ "ᴛᴀᴋɪɴɢ ᴀᴡᴀʏ" ᴀ sᴏᴜʀᴄᴇ ᴏғ ɪɴᴄᴏᴍᴇ ᴀs ᴀ ᴡᴀʏ ᴏғ ᴘʀᴏᴛᴇsᴛ, ʙᴜᴛ ᴛᴇʟʟ ᴍᴇ, ᴡʜᴀᴛ ᴇʟsᴇ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴡᴇ ᴅᴏ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ʜᴇᴀʀᴅ...?


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Deleted • 22 June 2020 at 10:35 AM

@sinthr Personally, I have never bought any CC since I've started. My entire hoard consists of trading them for other creatures, like the recent Tines. Which frankly, has a high price of 3kCC. I mean, yeah. It's good if you're one of the lucky few who has the time and spent the effort to get a few eggs but it still costs a lot.

It's nice to have creatures that have doubled in price since they were first released, but that's also a bit of the problem.. The prices have doubled, or even tripled.

I love your idea of having EC be more valuable. There is a potential now that you can quest for CC, which is quest like crazy, try your luck in the Vend Machine, hope to get a older released creature, then sell it. I was thinking, it's a bit crazy to have the SARS creatures stay there forever. An the newer Deena is 10MEC or 1kCC, so if you're looking for expensive, that's one example.

I like having to feed to get EC, but it does get tedious. I would suggest having users create content, like stories and stuff that are more interactive, but I don't quite see that working out. It could be like a game?
Different users have different goals, something random, such as.. 'User must have 100EC in strongroom.' or 'User needs to submit 5 candy corn cupcakes.' It should be fun, easy and limited. You may do such fun tasks 3 times a day. Or a puzzle! A creature's picture is separate into several pieces, and there should be a way to get it, somehow. And with these puzzle pieces completed, you get the creature in the puzzle? This could be a fun way to do events.

Can someone tell me what the Asteroid event was like? Where you had to defeat the evil Parasetorite Queen. I don't mind the Easter egg or Thanksgiving Hunt, but it's a little strenuous on the eyes.

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decay • 22 June 2020 at 10:34 PM

@sinthr

I think it’s a little unfair to label anyone who’s concerned about the 500cc price as essentially selfish/ not empathetic. Also, stating that it was a choice to spend that much/resources just really did not sit right with me.

While I personally think the original 500cc is a good price, I feel like that paragraph ignored some of the sentiments of people who payed a lot/traded a lot for creatures. I feel like for many people who sacrificed a lot for some creatures, when they’re rereleased it’s a slap in the face and essentially spitting on their handwork.

It’s not that we want newer players to struggle and get frustrated like we did, we just want our hardwork to be respected that’s all and rereleasing creatures without that consideration is somewhat insulting as many of us are dedicated Eggcave fans who have spent years trading and yet feel ignored as well.

I think that this problem stems from the unbalanced economy as well, and it wouldn’t be so significant if prices and rarity were more controlled....

Also, the notion that it was our choice to spend those resources/money, is really frustrating because we only spent that money/ resources because there were no other options to get a creature we wanted because of the crazy economy. We had little to no control over the price or the wanting of the creature other than playing another game or not playing Eggcave.

So while I do agree with you stance of rereleasing, the statement you said about those who don’t exactly agree with the 500cc price point just really did not really sit right with me because you more so attack their character than their argument.

I just wanna add, though, that you are someone I consider a friend and am not trying to attack or insult you at all. I just think those statements will make it hard for people like me, and who disagree with some points but overall support the cause, to be able to feel comfortable joining the boycott.

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sandara • 22 June 2020 at 11:36 PM

I agree with @decay, we did not have a choice but to pay a lot in some creatures, and I did say that it was only my opinion that I was against the 500cc price, and that's why I said that the best is doing a vote with EC's community (not only in this post, 'cause some people don't want to openly say their opinion).

I believe that doing this vote will be the best, I will not be against even if the things I don't agree are the one that people vote the most and they decide it was the best choice, because it was the majority.

And again, "that is only my opnion, I do suport re-releasing, but not for 500cc and not limitless, I hope I was not rude or anything, it is just that I think re-releases are a sensitive topic"

Edit: The truth is, I think that every major changes on EC had to be anonymous voted first, like when they re-drawed the creatures (I liked it, but there were a lot that did not).

Deleted • 23 June 2020 at 4:29 AM

ᴛʜᴀɴᴋ ʏᴏᴜ, ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ, ғᴏʀ ᴘᴏsᴛɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜʀ ɪɴᴘᴜᴛ ᴏɴ ᴛʜᴀᴛ! ɪ ʀᴇᴀʟʟʏ, ʀᴇᴀʟʟʏ ʜᴏᴘᴇ ᴛʜɪs ᴡɪʟʟ ʙᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ɢᴏᴏᴅ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴛʜɪs ɪssᴜᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ғɪɴᴀʟʟʏ ʙᴇ ʟɪsᴛᴇɴᴇᴅ & ʀᴇᴘʟɪᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ʟɪᴋᴇ ɪᴛ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ. ❤️ ɪᴛ's ᴀ ᴘʟᴇᴀsᴜʀᴇ sᴇᴇɪɴɢ sᴏ ᴍᴀɴʏ ɢᴏᴏᴅ ɪᴅᴇᴀs ғʀᴏᴍ ʏᴏᴜ - ᴡᴇ'ᴅ ᴅᴇғɪɴɪᴛᴇʟʏ ɴᴇᴇᴅ sᴏᴍᴇ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇᴄ ᴍᴀʀᴋᴇᴛ ᴀɴᴅ ᴀ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ʙᴀʟᴀɴᴄᴇᴅ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ (ɪ'ᴍ sᴛɪʟʟ ᴛᴏᴛᴀʟʟʏ ᴜᴘ ғᴏʀ ᴀ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ ᴄᴀᴘ, ɪᴍᴏ ᴀ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅɴ'ᴛ ʙᴇ ᴡᴏʀᴛʜ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴛʜᴀɴ 1ᴋᴄᴄ... ɪ ᴍᴇᴀɴ, ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴀʀᴇɴ'ᴛ ᴍᴀᴅᴇ ᴏғ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ ᴀɴᴅ sᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴇ sɪᴛᴇ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅɴ'ᴛ ᴍᴇᴀɴ ᴏɴʟʏ ᴛʜᴇ ʀɪᴄʜ ᴄᴀɴ ᴀғғᴏʀᴅ ʀᴀʀᴇ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs).

ᴀɴᴅ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ʏᴏᴜʀ sᴛᴀᴛᴇᴍᴇɴᴛ, @/decay & @/sandara, ɴᴏᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴡʀᴏɴɢ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ʏᴏᴜ sᴀɪᴅ & ɪ ᴛᴏᴛᴀʟʟʏ ᴜɴᴅᴇʀsᴛᴀɴᴅ. 😊 ʙᴜᴛ ɪғ ʏᴏᴜ ʀᴇᴀᴅ sᴏᴍᴇ ᴏғ ᴍʏ ᴘᴏsᴛ ʏᴏᴜ'ʟʟ sᴇᴇ ɪ'ᴠᴇ ᴜsᴇᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛᴇʀᴍs "ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴜsᴇʀs" ᴏʀ "sᴏᴍᴇ ᴜsᴇʀs". ɪ ᴅɪᴅɴ'ᴛ sᴛᴀᴛᴇ "ᴀʟʟ ᴜsᴇʀs ᴀʀᴇ ɢʀᴇᴇᴅʏ ᴇᴛᴄ". ɪ'ᴠᴇ sᴇᴇɴ ᴍᴀɴʏ, ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴜsᴇʀs ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇʟɪᴛᴇ ᴍᴇɴᴛᴀʟɪᴛʏ, ᴛʀᴜsᴛ ᴍᴇ. ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡᴀɴᴛ ᴛᴏ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʀᴀʀᴇ sᴛᴜғғ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ ᴄᴏᴠᴇ sɪᴍᴘʟʏ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ғᴇʀ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀs ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴀғғᴏʀᴅ ɪᴛ. ᴛʜᴇʏ ғᴇᴇʟ sᴘᴇᴄɪᴀʟ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴀʀᴇ ʜᴀᴘᴘʏ ʏᴏᴜɴɢᴇʀ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴏʀ ᴜsᴇʀs ᴡɪᴛʜ ɴᴏᴛ sᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ɪɴᴄᴏᴍᴇ / ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴡᴏɴ'ᴛ ʙᴇ ɢɪᴠᴇɴ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴᴄᴇ, sᴏ ᴛʜᴇʏ'ʟʟ ʙᴇ ᴀʙʟᴇ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ sᴘᴇᴄɪᴀʟ ғᴏʀᴇᴠᴇʀ.

ɪ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ᴀʟsᴏ ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴜsᴇʀs ᴛʜᴀᴛ sᴘᴇɴᴛ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ ʜᴀᴅ ᴛᴏ, ᴀɴᴅ ɪ ʀᴇsᴘᴇᴄᴛ ᴛʜᴀᴛ. ɪ'ᴍ ɴᴏᴛ sᴀʏɪɴɢ ᴡᴇ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴅsʀᴜᴘᴛ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ ʜᴀʀᴅ ᴡᴏʀᴋ ᴀɴᴅ, ᴀs ɪ sᴀɪᴅ, ɢɪᴠɪɴɢ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀs ᴀɴ ᴏᴘᴘᴏʀᴛᴜɴɪᴛʏ ᴛʜᴀᴛ's LESS sᴛʀᴇssғᴜʟ (ɪᴛ's ɴᴏᴛ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪ'ᴍ sᴀʏɪɴɢ, ɢɪᴠᴇ 'ᴇᴍ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ғᴏʀ ғʀᴇᴇ, ᴇʜ) ᴅᴏᴇsɴ'ᴛ ᴛᴀᴋᴇ ᴀᴡᴀʏ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇғғᴏʀᴛ ʏᴏᴜ sᴘᴇɴᴛ ɪɴ ᴏʙᴛᴀɪɴɪɴɢ ɪᴛ. ᴡʜᴀᴛ ɪ'ᴍ sᴀʏɪɴɢ ɪs ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴛʜᴇ ғᴀᴄᴛ ᴡᴇ ʜᴀᴅ ᴛᴏ sᴛʀᴇss ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴏʀᴋ sᴜᴘᴇʀ ʜᴀʀᴅ ᴜɴᴛɪʟ ʟɪᴛᴇʀᴀʟʟʏ ᴍᴀᴋɪɴɢ ᴏᴜʀ ᴀʀᴍs ғᴀʟʟ ᴅᴏᴇsɴ'ᴛ ᴀʟʟᴏᴡ ᴜs ᴛᴏ ғᴏʀᴄᴇ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀs ᴛᴏ ɢᴏ ᴛʜʀᴏᴜɢʜ ᴛʜᴇ sᴀᴍᴇ sᴛʀᴇss. ɪᴛ's ᴀ ʙɪᴛ ʟɪᴋᴇ sᴀʏɪɴɢ, "ɪ sᴜғғᴇʀᴇᴅ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜɪs, sᴏ ɪ ʜᴏᴘᴇ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀs sᴜғғᴇʀs ᴀs ɪ ᴅɪᴅ ᴀs ᴡᴇʟʟ". ɪᴛ ɪsɴ'ᴛ ʀɪɢʜᴛ ᴀɴᴅ ɪᴛ ɪsɴ'ᴛ ғᴀɪʀ, ɪɴ ᴍʏ ᴏᴘɪɴɪᴏɴ, sᴏʀʀʏ. ᴛʜɪɴɢs ᴄʜᴀɴɢᴇ, ɪɴ ʟɪғᴇ. ɪғ ᴡᴇ ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ʟᴇᴀʀɴ ᴛᴏ ᴀᴅᴀᴘᴛ ᴛᴏ ᴄʜᴀɴɢᴇs ᴀɴᴅ ʙᴇ ᴇᴍᴘʜᴀᴛɪᴄ, ᴛʜᴇɴ ᴡᴇ'ʟʟ ɢᴏ ᴇxᴄᴛɪɴᴄᴛ ʟɪᴋᴇ ʙɪɢ 'ᴏʟ ᴅɪɴᴏsᴀᴜʀs. ^^"

ᴛʜᴀᴛ sᴀɪᴅ, ᴍᴀʏʙᴇ ᴡᴇ ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴘᴜᴛ ᴀ ʟᴀʙᴇʟ (ᴊᴜsᴛ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴠᴇɴᴅ's ᴏɴᴇ) ᴏɴ ʀᴇ-ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs, sᴏ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴊᴜsᴛ ʟɪᴋᴇ ɴᴏɴ ᴠᴇɴᴅ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs, ᴛʜᴇ ᴏʀɪɢɪɴᴀʟ ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇ ᴏɴᴇs sʜᴀʟʟ ᴡᴏʀᴛʜ ᴀ ʙɪᴛ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ʜɪɢʜʟɪɢʜᴛ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡᴇʀᴇ ɴᴏ ᴇᴀsʏ ғᴇᴀᴛ ᴛᴏ ᴏʙᴛᴀɪɴ.


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magenta • 23 June 2020 at 5:57 AM

@sinthr why i mainly disagree with the unlimited 500cc re-release thing is that yes that will be good in the short-term since everyone will be happy since we can all get our dream creatures but this will affect eggcave negatively in the long-run since nobody has to trade anymore which is one of this site's fundamentals leading to a completely dead site 😋 trading is the basis on how this site runs and by severely unbalancing the trade system by unlimited re-releasing critters (like tine) will probably lead to more people quitting, it's not about 'hoping people suffer as much as we did' as you put it, it's about the overall well-being of this site and activity, which is why if CSP creatures are re-released a limit should be placed and definitely at a slightly higher price point, say 700cc to 1k cc, you might argue that this is 'greedy' but once again, ultimately, re-releasing is for the site to be active once again and we should be thinking with that end goal in mind instead of just thinking of short-term re-releases.

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decay • 23 June 2020 at 6:12 AM

@sinthr
I agree with your points (: but I think that there's still this sense of generalization/categorization of all people who want controlled rereleases as people who aren't empathic which I find problematic.
Also, It sounds like you're saying if you don't agree with 500cc rereleases just deal with it which I feel is dismissive to some people's concerns.

Also, I feel like it's not if we suffered, you should suffer too but more of "consider my suffering while I consider yours" because I suffered, what is equal and fair is different than the standard.

I feel like there's a middle ground that could be reached here, at least at the beginning! Maybe when prices get more regularized, rereleases could be more commonplace!

I feel like a lot of these fears started with the Tine rerelease meanwhile I was super happy to get a Tine and see others get one as well, I feel like the dramatic drop from 20k+ish to 2k was problematic too and there should of been some restrictions there, not super crazy ones but at least some 😋

Deleted • 23 June 2020 at 6:24 AM

@magenta, ɪ ᴀɢʀᴇᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ʏᴏᴜ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ! ʙᴜᴛ ɪ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ᴍɪɢʜᴛ ʙᴇ ᴍᴜʟᴛɪᴘʟᴇ sᴏʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜɪs. ғᴏʀ ᴇxᴀᴍᴘʟᴇ, ᴛʜᴇ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ᴄᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏʀɪɢɪɴᴀʟ 500ᴄᴄ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ ʙᴜᴛ ʟɪᴍɪᴛᴇᴅ ᴏɴᴇ ᴘᴇʀ ᴜsᴇʀ, ᴀɴᴅ / ᴏʀ ʙᴇ ᴀᴠᴀɪʟᴀʙʟᴇ ғᴏʀ ᴀ sʜᴏʀᴛ ᴛɪᴍᴇ (ғᴏʀ ᴇxᴀᴍᴘʟᴇ, ᴅᴜʀɪɴɢ ᴀ ғᴇsᴛɪᴠɪᴛʏ, ᴀs ᴄʜʀɪsᴛᴍᴀs ᴏʀ ᴇᴀsᴛᴇʀ). ɪ ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴛʜᴇ sɪᴛᴇ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴅɪᴇ ᴛʙʜ, ᴀs ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ɢᴇᴛ ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏ ᴍᴏɴᴛʜ - ᴡᴇ'ʀᴇ ᴛʜɪɴᴋɪɴɢ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ᴛʜᴇ sɪᴛᴜᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ᴀs ɪᴛ ɪs ɴᴏᴡ ᴀɴᴅ ɢɪᴠɪɴɢ ɪᴍᴘᴏʀᴛᴀɴᴄᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴏʟᴅɪᴇs, ʙᴜᴛ ɪғ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ᴡᴇʀᴇ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴏʟᴅɪᴇs ᴛʜᴇɴ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ ʀᴇᴄᴇɴᴛ ᴄsᴘs ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴀs ᴡᴇʟʟ. ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴜsᴇʀs ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ʙᴜʏ ᴄᴄ sᴏ ᴛʜᴇʏ'ᴅ ʙᴇ ᴀᴄᴛɪᴠᴇ & ᴍᴏᴛɪᴠᴀᴛᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ɢᴀɪɴ ᴇᴄs ᴛᴏ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ ғᴏʀ ᴄᴄ, ᴀɴᴅ sᴏ ᴏɴ. ɪᴍᴏ, ᴛʜᴇ sɪᴛᴇ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ғʟᴏᴜʀɪsʜ, ɴᴏᴛ ᴅɪᴇ. ᴄ:

ᴀɴᴅ @decay, ɪ ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ɪ'ᴍ ɢᴇɴᴇʀᴀʟɪᴢɪɴɢ ᴏʀ sᴀʏɪɴɢ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴀʀᴇɴ'ᴛ ᴇᴍᴘʜᴀᴛɪᴄ, ᴊᴜsᴛ sᴛᴀᴛɪɴɢ ᴡᴇ ALL ᴄᴀɴ ʟᴇᴀʀɴ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴇᴍᴘʜᴀᴛɪᴄ, ᴛʜᴀᴛ's ᴀʟʟ. 😊 ᴀɴᴅ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ʜᴏɴᴇsᴛ, ɪ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛɪɴᴇ ɪs ɴᴏᴡ ᴡᴏʀᴛʜ 2-3ᴋ. ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪs ᴀ ғᴀɪʀ ʀᴀɴɢᴇ, ɪᴛ ᴡᴀsɴ'ᴛ ғᴀɪʀ ʙᴇғᴏʀᴇ. ᴛʜᴇ ʀᴇᴀʟ ᴘʀᴏʙʟᴇᴍ ɪsɴ'ᴛ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛɪɴᴇ's ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ ᴅʀᴏᴘ, ʙᴜᴛ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ᴀʀᴇ STILL ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴀʀᴇ ᴛᴏᴏ ʀᴀʀᴇ, ᴜɴᴏʙᴛᴀɪɴᴀʙʟᴇ & ᴡᴏʀᴛʜ ᴡᴀʏ ᴛᴏᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ᴄᴄ. ᴡʜᴀᴛ ɪ'ᴍ ʙᴀsɪᴄᴀʟʟʏ sᴀʏɪɴɢ ɪs ᴛʜᴀᴛ... ᴀ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇ, ANY ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇ, sʜᴏᴜʟᴅɴ'ᴛ ʙᴇ ᴡᴏʀᴛʜ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴛʜᴀɴ ᴀ ᴄᴇʀᴛᴀɪɴ ʀᴀɴɢᴇ, sᴏ ᴛᴏ ᴀᴠᴏɪᴅ ᴛʜᴇsᴇ ʜᴜɢᴇ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ ᴅʀᴏᴘs ᴀɴᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴀᴠᴏɪᴅ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇs ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴡᴏʀᴛʜ sᴏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ (ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴏɴɴɪᴇs ᴀɴᴅ sᴜᴄʜ). ɪᴍᴏ, ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ᴀ ᴠᴀʟᴜᴇ ᴄᴀᴘ, ᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜɴɢᴇʀ ᴜsᴇʀs & ᴛʜᴏsᴇ ᴡʜᴏ sᴛʀᴜɢɢʟᴇ ᴇᴠᴇɴ ᴛᴏ ᴀғғᴏʀᴅ 500 ᴡɪʟʟ ʙᴇ ALWAYS ʙᴇ ʟᴇғᴛ ʙᴇʜɪɴᴅ. c':

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decay • 23 June 2020 at 6:53 AM

@sinthr
I don't think it was purposeful xD
It was more of a it could be read this way and kinda felt that way 😋
I mean I personally don't mind it 2-3kcc as well, but when I think about it from the perspective of someone who spent like 20kcc worth of creatures, that price range really sucks
I agree that 2-3kcc is a way more realistic price and that the real problem lies in it's impossible price beforehand and that it should be the range of so many creatures now and eventually I hope we do get to that place

but even though the high price is the ultimate problem, we shouldn't ignore the sentiments and problems that the price drop itself creates because they're unfair as well is what i'm saying.

I feel like then another solution would be to make CC more accessible, make it somewhat easier to obtain as the current options are pretty limited and time consuming

Again, I think there's a middle ground to be reached that could make rereleases appealing to everyone and I feel like not being able to find that middle ground to make a good chunk of people happy is the reason CC creatures haven't been rereleased

I think that the sanctuary idea is personally really great and addresses these concerns (:

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froot • 23 June 2020 at 6:57 AM

@decay I was reading your essay entry and an idea popped into my head...

What if, when you manage to collect a certain amount of ec e.g. 2 million ec, you can go to the cash shop and exchange it for 200cc? I feel like that would make cc more accessible.

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decay • 23 June 2020 at 7:04 AM

@shadowfaxe
That sounds like a good idea instead of having to exchange with users (:
Maybe the EC you convert could be eventually used in like a raffle in something so that it could benefit the players?
Like a lottery for older creatures? Then it could reintroduce some older cc/cave creatures for free but it only happens every so often maybe?

It's a rough idea but maybe we could come up with something (:

Deleted • 23 June 2020 at 8:59 AM

@decay ᴀʜʜ ᴍʏ ʙᴀᴅ, ʏᴇs, ɪ ᴅᴏ sᴇᴇ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘᴏɪɴᴛ! ;ᴡ;

ʀᴇᴀʟʟʏ ᴅɪᴅɴ'ᴛ ᴡᴀɴᴛ ᴛᴏ ɢɪᴠᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪᴍᴘʀᴇssɪᴏɴ ᴏʀ ᴛᴏ ɢᴇɴᴇʀᴀʟɪᴢᴇ, ɪ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴘʀᴇᴛᴛʏ ᴍᴜᴄʜ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ... ᴡᴇʟʟ, ᴍᴀʏʙᴇ ᴀ sᴏʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ ᴛᴏ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ ʜᴀᴘᴘʏ ᴅᴏᴇsɴ'ᴛ ᴇxɪsᴛ, ᴏғ ᴄᴏᴜʀsᴇ sᴏᴍᴇ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ғᴇᴇʟ ғʀᴜsᴛʀᴀᴛᴇᴅ ɪғ ᴄsᴘs ᴡᴇʀᴇ ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ғᴏʀ 500ᴄᴄ, ᴀɴᴅ sᴏᴍᴇ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀs ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ғᴇᴇʟ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ'ʀᴇ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴘᴜɴɪsʜᴇᴅ ғᴏʀ ɴᴏᴛ ᴊᴏɪɴɪɴɢ ʏᴇᴀʀs ᴀɢᴏ ɪғ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴅᴏ ɢᴇᴛ ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ᴀᴛ ᴀ ʙɪɢɢᴇʀ ᴘʀɪᴄᴇ. sᴏ ᴍᴀʏʙᴇ ᴡᴇ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴛʀʏ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴜɴᴅᴇʀsᴛᴀɴᴅɪɴɢ ᴏғ ᴀ ᴄʜᴀɴɢᴇ, ᴇᴠᴇɴ ɪғ ᴡᴇ ғᴇᴇʟ ɪᴛ's ᴜɴғᴀɪʀ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ᴡᴇ ᴘᴀɪᴅ ᴍᴏʀᴇ. ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ɪ'ᴍ ᴘʀᴇᴛᴛʏ sᴜʀᴇ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʟᴇᴀʀɴ ᴛᴏ ʟᴏᴠᴇ ᴀ ɴᴇᴡ & ᴍᴏʀᴇ ɪɴᴛᴜɪᴛɪᴠᴇ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ. ɪ ᴀɢʀᴇᴇ ᴛʜᴏᴜɢʜ ᴏɴ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴇᴄᴇssɪᴛʏ ᴏғ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴀᴄᴛɪᴠɪᴛʏ & ᴡᴀʏs ᴛᴏ ᴛʀᴀᴅᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴇxᴄʜᴀɴɢᴇ ᴄᴜʀʀᴇɴᴄʏ. 😊

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marythebeast • 23 June 2020 at 10:10 AM

@sinthr
I support your strike, I have never bought CC straight from the CashShop before anyways. I think rereleases of old creatures would be a nice opportunity, as long as there is a creature limit per person.

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sandara • 23 June 2020 at 6:04 PM

@shadowfaxe @decay
I loved this idea, if it is that way then I support 100%, making it something like the Lottery, where it has a limit to how much Tickets we can get and completely random.
And I would love a system that we can exchange Ec for Cc and Cc for Ec, that would make things more easy (for that to not be troblesome to the mods, we can put a limit there too, like exchange at most 5k cc in a month -just an exemple).

@sinthr
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I feel like it would be cooler if the older creature gets a label, like getting a emoticon on their names or something just like the vend, just as you said, it would be like a good work award😊

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