Update With CaveCash Gifting

leafpelt • 21 April 2013 at 8:50 PM

@icymuffin

That'll fix that problem. But the odd bits of CC?

Orderedchaos • 21 April 2013 at 8:51 PM

As I said, making freezes items is one idea. However we do not want CC items to become the CC replacement in the economy. We really don't want to see trades labeled "for X freezes." That is something we want to avoid.

This decision is to remove CC from the economy and take trading back to the way it was, you traded creatures or EC for the creatures that you wanted. With the edition of monthlie cave creatures this will actually make trading for the creatures you want a little easier. People won't be asking for large sums of CC, instead they will ask for certain creatures.

There will be some time while people adjust to this change, but in the long run this will actually balance out trading so its not so heavily in the favor of those who can buy CC.

shelby • 21 April 2013 at 8:52 PM

@leafpelt
Ian said in another post they'll have to think of something.
I think everything is in planning and sorting stage right now.
Not everything is figured out yet.

Meteoroid • 21 April 2013 at 8:52 PM

The odd bits of CC will need to be worked out. As Ian mentioned, there will need to be a creative solution to that.
Yes, the Magic Shop does look a bit lonely... poor thing probably is filled to the brim with dust.

leafpelt • 21 April 2013 at 8:54 PM

@shelby

We'll have to see what new updates there will be then...

Again, just my two cents. Besides, I was posting on my phone, so the time for me to start typing and the time to post it was pretty long...X3

shelby • 21 April 2013 at 8:55 PM

@leafpelt
Yes exactly.
We just have to wait and be patient.
I don't think that's too much to ask of us, though.

That's understandable.
Phones can be slow.
xD

leafpelt • 21 April 2013 at 8:56 PM

@shelby

Then again, half of us have some form of ADHD....😃

Yup. They are..

chapus • 21 April 2013 at 8:58 PM

@Ian I'm kinda happy to hear this! 😱 FINALLY, MORE CREATURE FOR CREATURES TRADES. ;U; And I'm also happy to hear that there will be Cave monthlies. c:

jix • 21 April 2013 at 9:04 PM

totally agree on making CSP items into holdable items used for trading. I NEED FREEZES!

mairbear • 21 April 2013 at 9:07 PM

@eggcaveteam

Ooh I kinda like this idea 😊 Having both CC and EC monthlies will definitely help even things out. However, be careful with what price the EC ones are introduced as.... that will likely eventually turn into the CC:EC ratio. Even if you remove the feature to directly trade CC, I don't think it's possible to actually remove it as a trading currency completely as long as there are things you can only buy with CC. Anyway, I'm on board for seeing how this goes ^^

maverick • 21 April 2013 at 9:09 PM

@jix
But then the converter could be taken advantage of by people using all their EC to get CC, thus causing the economy to fall again. ;n;

jix • 21 April 2013 at 9:10 PM

@maverick

Yea, true. :/

chapus • 21 April 2013 at 9:15 PM

Honestly, lots of people are saying that they cannot buy monthlies anymore... that isn't true. Since CC won't be used for trading, we can still buy monthlies using LEs we have and trade them with users that can buy CC and thus can buy monthlies. So not only will this change make EC more important, but it will also make creature for creature trades more common and this will make it easier for new people that can't buy CC to get rarer creatures. I highly agree with the idea of making freezes and stones items we can trade and it could be useful if we could maybe be able to offer them on trades, so then people can still revive their dead creatures as well as get freezes. c:

But like @Ian said, this change will shock many people and some might not like it, but I honestly see more pros than cons in this decision.

jirachiwishmaker • 21 April 2013 at 9:20 PM

I think for the problem of the last bits of CC left that people have in their account maybe they can purchase an asteroid creature. or be able to purchase a nice travel with it, just a suggestion. I also think since you're restoring the ec economy that maybe you could have double feed 4-5 times a month that way people can really save up lots of ec for trades of creatures. An increase in double feeds a month will definitely motivate everyone to do lots of feeds more often since they're saving up. Example would be a retired travel.

chapus • 21 April 2013 at 9:25 PM

@chloelove I agree with you. 😸

jmt_1992 • 21 April 2013 at 9:27 PM

@Ian I really like the idea of 2 CC and 2 EC creatures per month. However, I wish there was still a way to trade for CC. Maybe set up a "trading for CC" trading post?
I also agree with other users that the CC creatures are rather overpriced. $5 for one creature that could possibly die is a bit much.

jirachiwishmaker • 21 April 2013 at 9:30 PM

@chapus2009

Thanks it was the only things I could think of that people would be able to purchase with the small bits they had left.

purrclan • 21 April 2013 at 9:30 PM

@Ian
I think that, instead of getting rid of the CC gifting thing altogether, we should be able to trade CC in the trade center as well as EC. I understand that with gifting there were scamming problems, but there were CC scams before there was CC trading. People would trade creatures to other people who said 'I'll freeze it for you' and never gave it back. When there was gifting, there were promises of giving CC that was never given, but that was just a different kind of scam. If CC was in the trade center, CC scams would not take place.
And yes, CC gifting changed the Egg Cave economy. Adding the ability to trade EC changed it too.

jmt_1992 • 21 April 2013 at 9:40 PM

@purrclan I agree.

Meteoroid • 21 April 2013 at 9:50 PM

@purrclan
One of the purposes behind this removal is to separate CC from the rest of the site and place it into its own little corner over at the Cash Shop Park. As such CaveCash will no longer be able to leave an account post-purchase. To deal with the Freezing scams, we are looking into the possibility of turning CSP items into items that can be placed into your inventory for later use.

In regards to EC changing the economy, this is a type of currency accessible to every user on the website, be it they support the CSP or otherwise. We are currently in the process of developing new ways to earn and spend Egg Coins to help boost motivation for acquiring it. With CaveCash being used in Trading, newer users are just about pushed aside unless they have access to a credit/debit card, which is very unfair and not at all what was intended from the Gifting feature.

All of these opinions/ideas/suggestions in this thread are very interesting to read and I would like to thank those participating in the discussion. Without your input and support, Egg Cave would be unable to grow as much as it has been.

blueclaw • 21 April 2013 at 9:57 PM

I like the idea of having both CC monthlies and EC monthlies in the Cash Shop Park. That way, the people who can't get CC, such as me, can get their own special monthlies.

Deleted • 21 April 2013 at 10:05 PM

Omg! I LOVE THE IDEA! I'm super excited now!

trish • 21 April 2013 at 10:10 PM

I do love this new update.(: But maybe Im biased because I speak from a person who can buy CC's PoV. Making CC accessories items will make a big impact in the Trade Center but users still need to have access to them somehow. But I'm not quite all up for the items idea.

korikill • 21 April 2013 at 10:24 PM

I propose a period of time where people can buy 1 cc for a penny. That way, people with odd amounts can boost up their total to an even amount.
For example, I have 450 cc. I have nothing to spend it on. With an extra 50, I could buy a CSP creature.

Right now, the minimum is 500, so I would be in the same boat no matter what.

mrsgiggles • 21 April 2013 at 11:12 PM

@Ian - I am so in love with you, YES you can marry me. Just don't tell my hubby...

Deleted • 21 April 2013 at 11:28 PM

What is the Magic Shop?

brad • 22 April 2013 at 12:13 AM

This is an.... interesting change. I'll give it that.

I do kinda like it though.... in some ways.
As a person who doesn't buy online currency like cc, I usually don't have a way toget the special things that are bought currency only things. Which is one thing I liked about egg cave. I could save up some ec and trade it for cc to trade for cc only creatures. Or even buy the creatures at that.

But now I can't do that.

And I hope people don't getgreedy and just not trade cc creatures at all for ec and just other cc creatures. Cause I am rather new and didnt really have time to stock coves with cc creatures. So I really hope just cause I am new, this doesn't go terrible for me..


And I also wanted to freeze my mirkang at stage 1. Which now I can't do until something is done with freezers. And I hope it is soon that something is done with them because I don't want the trade I did for mine just go to waste because it evolved past stage 1.



And sorry if this doesn't make since. I typed it on my tablet. Which took about 15 mins. XD

peppermintcowboy • 22 April 2013 at 12:38 AM

It'll be interesting to see how this all pans out. Mostly I noticed this: "And instead of 3 Cash Shop Monthly creatures, there will only be 2." Gosh, that's good to hear!

I hope that the monthly cave egg isn't released in such numbers that the value tanks after 3-4 days...

Maybe release a few new/different aliens from the asteroid? That'd give more non-CC-buyers a chance to trade for Cash Shop pets.

Anyway, I'm just rambling. I hope the new changes work out! 😊

mairbear • 22 April 2013 at 12:42 AM

@peppermintcowboy
The cave monthlies are something you'd have to buy, like how you have to buy Callas. That's how it would give more value to EC ^^

pepper • 22 April 2013 at 12:48 AM

@mairbear - Oh, thanks for letting me know. I just figured they were free from the cave since they're called the 'cave monthlies.' Thanks for explaining.

EDIT: Dang, forgot I was on my side when replying! 😋